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| Last post: | June 2, 2024 at 6:47 AM |
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That's the thing, I never once mentioned about 'sweeping changes' but people keep bringing it up for no reason. As long as they keep the core of john, zekken, tenz it would still be considered as 'keeping the team' and I don't even mind Zellsis. He is a good player and brings the balance
read the first 2 lines and should be pretty obvious. Idk why people try to argue against it when it's the correct observation. Whether you are in favor of the change or not is a different matter
they lost some close games where sacy was straight ass. against EG sunset he singlehandedly threw so many rounds. they deffo woul have made playoffs with a better player. You can't play 4v5 most rounds, that's a recipe for Ls.
Them winning madrid just proves how good the rest of the 3 guys are and they deserve better. Aight i'm out. I can't change yalls mind it seems, you guys are hellbent to be nice to sacy just bc he WON and would rather ignore the massive flaws he has and how he's pulling the team down.
Achievement-wise, yes you right but quality wise v1c clears and it's not even close.
I was saying this exactly because SEN is a good roster but has potential to be unbeatable, juggernaut type of great with just ONE change. I never said they need a roster overhaul, they have an almost perfect and balanced roster.
People here are just misunderstanding me. It may be hard for vlr and reddit nerds but it's not that hard for coaches to find the weak link who see these players everyday and see them comm and make micro-decisions.
A lot of coaches failed with super teams and no one has ever won b2b internationals. It's not as easy as you make it seem
You guys are sheep. Just glazing Kendrick because other people do the same. kendrick has no flow, you need 2 historians to even understand what he is referring to, he doesn't have rhythm like Drake. Kendrick just waffling bruh. His words don't even rhyme shit sounds like a 14yr old girl reciting in a poem competition. DRAKE WON
I am not saying they should make multiple changes. Just get one guy with hands and they are gucci. Look at teams like LEV and KRU. They could just aim diff SEN and run it down with 5v5 site diffs. Starts are no good if Kingg just 3 pieces you with his fkin vandal. It's an FPS game!
both of them clears sacy, any day of the week
mini is arguably the most accomplished coach in valorant
look at nrg. they got dicked down, lost all the clutches and still got more than 13 rounds
It's so funny seeing SEN fans cope this hard LMAOOO. 13 rounds over 2 maps? It's not possible even if LOUD turns into 2022 champs LOUD. G2 is not Furia/mibr. They are a very decent team and once you start snowballing it's very easy to get 7-8 rounds even if you get destroyed the whole map.
But even if it's close, G2 will edge out just by scrapping and SEN will have only to blame themselves because they could have won a lot cleaner yesterday and easily have a 16-18 rounds buffer which would have been lot more doable for LOUD.
Marved is the reason they won against loud tbf. Otherwise they would have looked like garbango mibr, furia esque team this year.
PRX is the only outlier you could name. They literally would hit a 5 man stack and win out. Everyone know how they play but is there any other team that can play like them and be actually good? No. Now think through why that's the case.
Fnatic doesn't have the best players in each role anymore. what are you? stupid? They were the best team last year and won 2 trophies when alfa, leo and derke were considered the best in their role. And Fnatic still might make it to Shanghai.
It's not. G2 getting 13-2 destroyed and a close other map is more realistic. Maps don't flow like that because of the snowball effect.
Bruh SEN is out. Even if loud destroys G2, 13 rnds is just too low of a buffer. G2 needs only 14 rnds over 2 maps
13 rounds buffer is just too low for 2 maps. Even if G2 plays really bad, they can get 14 rounds just by scrapping and G2 aren't even horrible.
A team with aspas and less won over a team with y0y and FNS. What a surprise!
They don't have an IGL and their duelist player can't play raze, they don't have a legacy senti player but sure having a 'good' team is the problem.
That's why SEN will continue to be shit but that's not my or your problem. If you are gonna have an opinion just give a logical argument for it
If they get another guy he's not gonna use his utility at all. He's gonna peek mid and die with his util every round. That's the kind of guy people be wanting to replace sacy! Why do you make such moronic arguments? Have you seen verno, nismos util? They are much better and sacy doesn't even have good APR. Stop spreading this utility monster bullshit.
Blud TenZ and zekken literally had life games. Those are not replicable all the time and when they can't do that SEN loses. How is this not obvious? talkin about mistakes when NRG literally threw aways 11- 8 lead! making 1 change wouldn't fk up their core or synergy. It's just a QOL upgrade.
except sacy has been mostly unreliable for the past year and a half. He had good champs run but he started declining since 22 Reykjavik. even Brazilian LOUD fans would admit this.
SEN was this close from losing against NRG. If they missed out on madrid, would you have said the same thing? success can be deceiving, a good coach or manager can easily recognize what led to that said success.
Imagine Real Madrid wins the UCL with lucas vazquez, that wouldn't mean he contributed heavily on that win and they can't upgrade that position further.
fair but if SEN bombs out they ain't gonna keep kaplan anymore. An org as big as SEn(at least in valo) needs to relevant all the time, Rob Moore has seen what success looks like on his socials interactions. If Kaplan sees that this roster would have better chance with a more consistent player than sacy then it's best for him to ask Rob Moore for a change and if he can't grant it then move one.
zekken and tenz can't perform on todays level all the time, sometimes they will be against way harder opponents so will be much more difficult for them to get impacts. That's why this team needs another gigachad player to provide that depth.
They only won against very bad teams and 100T who were very weak at the start. I am not, I watch the games and the mistakes , whiffs etc linger on in my eyes. I can't help it but I just notice individual mistakes very easily and sacy made a lot of them this split.
mada. This guy is as good but he plays duelist so they gotta figure out whether they put him on duelist and zekken on ini or got the n4rrate route and convert him to a flex-ini.
Unless you blew your load on the first message it's not too bad. I understand that it's easy to think out scenarios in your head but it's entirely normal that she didn't care too much about you and thus can't recognize you. As long as you can keep the conversation going, you can make her interested about you. Don't be too pushy tho.
Not changes. Just 1 change. Either sacy or zellsis. Better sacy than zellsis because zellsis provides other value than just gaming. They would still have the core, if the 5th guy is really really good it shouldn't be difficult at all to incorporate the 5th guy.
1 change isn't a blow up. It's just getting a mere upgrade so that you have better chances for urself against better teams. Look at EG.
If that 'someone' is any of the guys I have mentioned then it is worth it specially because sacy has been so mid for the past 2 years. 1 round he is good and then the next 3 rounds he dies without a trade.
If you are an org like SEN, you gotta stay ahead of the curve. Their chemistry is ruined, that's the point. If they gotta build it back they might as well do it with a better player. Look at G2 icy, even though icy isn't like a game changer he still made G2 play a lot better. SEN was getting mad impressions on their madrid posts, them being mid and irrelevant costs Rob Moore a lot.
Kaplan has to know better. If they can't make champs or win it with insane guys like zekken, johnQT, tenz and even Zellsis, it's cooked for him. He's not gonna be on SEN next year. So, he has no room to fumble. It's all or nothing and he has to be bold imo.
Do you watch NA tier 2? If not, watch them play first then talk. With any of those guys instead of zellsis/sacy SEN will become a true juggernaut, on per with Team heretics and that's not even a stretch.
emotion is the hindrance to success. Madrid was kind of a mickey mouse trophy, I have to say this even though I enjoyed SEN play. Right now there at least 5 teams that are fundamentally, tactic wise and roster wise better than madrid SEN. Only finding new strats and comps are not gonna be enough for SEN to close the gap. I am just being realistic.
I am being 100p realistic. If you don't think guys like verno, nismo, v1c etc wouldn't make this team instantly better you are just too attached to the current players.
clutches are not consistent ways to win games. I understand that those might get you hyped as a fan but I can objectively say this because I am neither a SEN fan nor sacy fan. Besides, you should expect clutches from players that stay alive late round. Players like verno or v1c etc would do the same if they were on SEN.
It was mostly tenz and zekken. The NRG game, the regional final against LOUD, madrid games. Yes teamwise, gameplay wise they were good. That's what i said too. But now that loads of teams have caught upto them and overtaken them in those regards they can't play the catchup game again with new strats only. They need at least one more guy that can steal away rounds.
Won masters off of TenZ and zekken playing insanely good and johnqt putting up numbers as an IGL. That's not replicable anymore when a lot of other teams have caught upto them. It's always better to stay ahead of the curve.
For split 2 and champs, would you keep the roster as it is with proven synergy or would you swap out sacy for a wonderkid like wo0t( ex. OXG verno, mada in NA) who can guy diff anyone consistently and win you unwinnable rounds?
If you ask me, I will choose the later. Because, I feel like TenZ and Zekken are the only frontliners on this team. If they get shutdown SEN just loses. That's why they lose so many ecos. If zekken or tenz gets one digged on the entries SEN round just falls apart like a house of cards. Good gameplans, chemistry, good fundies etc are all great but they are teachable traits and 'guy diffing' the opponents can give you that extra edge to win scrappy rounds and maps. Thoughts?
[ N.B. please, stop writing essays arguing they don't need 'sweeping changes'. I never said they need changes. Their core is almost perfect, they just need one more super reliable player in terms of shooting and decision making. 1 change outside of their core of zekken, johnqt,tenz, zellsis wouldn't kill their identity ]
These team is the most individually skilled team in valorant right now alongside Leviatan.
SEN would have been up there if they had another good shooter instead of s0cy but it is what it is. Some games like these are just scrappy where it's the battle of who can diff who. That's all it is and in matches like these you gotta fight like you are in a mud wrestling with a 240lbs 6' tall guy and just win out. KCorp had the better gameplan today imo but TH guys are just avengers put together.
it was the earlier round on B. Th won that round
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