Better watch my crops grow and let the landlord who owns my farm take his annual paycut off of me

Toxicity is a last ditch effort to get him to play with you, not telling him to kill himself, only in game situation. It is not necessary, but this is something I often see where people get frustrated

I am dying in the prehistorical era because I am likely an ant, I am dying during Ancient times because I am either a slave, a soldier or both, I am dying during the 1400 either because I am a slave, a soldier, or I have plague or all of them, I am dying during the Industrialization because I am likely a child factory worker, I am dying during the World Wars because I get sent into a fucking trench somewhere near Maginot. Nah I am good with my brainrot G

I was talking about tier 2-3 pros, but ok :)

I am probably clueless, but tell me, why would valve for example care if they have pretty much the same number in playerbase without much advertisment as valorant. Their esports product is shown, their product is played, they don't spend money on the esports scene, they sell in game items. They know that their European audience is unlikely to switch, has been there for like 20 years and still growing

Viewership is really spread out tbh, there is no set peak of tier 2, likely RMR qualifiers and they have been fairly viewed, like a tier 1 group stage opener I would say

But you can't really understand the person who commits to doing a failing strategy while saying nothing?

OK then, here we go. 5 people in a team, 1 is me, 2nd is the troll, why would I communicate and help this one guy instead of helping out the other 3? 4v5 is a handicap which you can realistically win by taking other fights and getting trades on the other side of the map. First I try assembling a 5 men unit and communication, but if I see a guy who despite all the tries to get him to play with the team continues trolling, he is beyond saving and the other four just need to pick up after him . I am not saying that 4v5 is impossible to win and that I get these teammates all the time, just a question of hypotheticals.

True, like sometimes explaining this situation from a far and in a basic concept helps.

Here in the dialogue we don't even have a problem, it's a discussion, there is no problem to solve in the first place. In game you have the problem of winning and it consists of the problems of winning rounds. Having an uncooperative onedemisionally thinking moron isn't a problem, it's a handicap, you cannot solve it, you just have to bear with it. The idea of setting up the playbook around this guy is also flawed because when he goes 2-10 he is either checked out and unwilling to even communicate or just went cold and will likely whiff

Problem is no matter how much utility you use to help him, him going for aim plays and losing that already concerns the team enough that they do not wish to deal with that retard. You might as well ask your teammate and he goes "why the fuck would we waste utility helping him" and instead set up a play on the other part of the map.

You are comparing the in game problem solving to an internet discussion where we discuss things, we don't find a solution to the problem.

Mean(( Any game I tried actually playing a lot and actually gave a shit about I ended up in the 0.1% of players. I do try talking to my teammates first, I do not pursue being toxic just to be toxic, but when I see a retard going for the same retarded ass wide peek into 3 people prefiring him, I will probably get tilted

So valorant is a worldwide but beats CS only due to China in viewership? And no matter how you define LoL, it's the highest E-sport, it will always be an E sport because it's fucking electronic

You slightly skipped the step where the teammates try talking to the troller first

Might actually move when tier 2 is open in CS again and closed for good in Valorant

I am just trying to figure out possible parameters they chose, perhaps you know then?

And if the person just ignores the criticism and insists on doing the same plays, is it logical someone will just give up on the game?

holy shit cook. Mongolz and 9z now are literal proof that in order to actually git gud you need to aspire. Like I refuse to believe NA CS is worth saving when mongolz were literally PRACCING WITH 300 PING, SHARING BEDS AND PLAYING FROM INTERNET CAFES

I wrote in one of the post, I use toxicity sometimes as a last resort when a person just seems to be doing exactly the same while expecting a different result. And why would you set up a play for a guy who is currently bottom fragging, and tell me how do you expect making a play on defence when your site anchor is just trying to rush for no reason?

playerbase seems relatively the same

I feel like this might end soon, they seem to give less and less shit about dota ( look at their new updates), now they work on deadlock, but i feel like the second deadlock release they will switch onto cs2

fletcher was right towards andrew who was willing to suffer shit like this. Obviously if everyone actedl ike Fletcher then the entire society would be fucked. I am only talking about people who actually have the intention to improve. Like I personally am feeling to hear a random call me a bot instead of saying Good Job, it serves as motivation and not as pity

I feel like the tides could theoratically turn if valve play their cards right. Valve can just legit go full send and make the first major in 2025 have the sticker money go into the prize pool turning the esports scene on its head. Like imagine valve host a major in Austin, USA, make it a 100 million dollar event ( sticker money + bundle money + compendium money can realistically make this a thing) and right before the final they would announce a brand new anti cheat with the operation, and then constant quality of life upgrades every 3 weeks. This shit would legit turn so many people, especially if vct continues to lose viewership

+1, this whole global reach thing is kinda pointless, you are spread out but the growth varies in the pace. Like CS is so well known in europe that denmark has CS as an additional subject course, Ukraine has s1mple as top 5 atheletes among youth and NAVI are the 2nd most valuable sports club inside Ukraine

that does not make it a better esport

so is is is valorant actually dying and cs2 growing?

I mean I come from eastern european cs, where the team communication (mind you this is the best team ever assembled by a region was talking like this) https://youtu.be/fDQQA8MrwNk So maybe it's just a thing I am used to https://youtu.be/Sw2hn71lTlI?t=90

didn't know, wtf

I mean I personally use it as a last resort, I try being calm at first, trying to give them an input, but if I see that the person is just ignoring me despite me being really tolerant towards them trolling, then I just try one last time before giving up on them

absolutely irrelevant when compared to valorant and CS

true, but I liked blue lock because it focused on multiple characters, but now it just feels like Isagi and his femboy squad.

same thing happened with me and my friend. I look at the radar and see his fucking sign go towards the same exact angle for like 5th time in a row and dying, I kept my cool and then I tell him shit like ''Can you please stop going there or do you actually want to fucking lose?'' and he replies with ''I just got unlucky''

obviously going personal is wild, like offending nationality and things like that, but just telling the guy ''Can you please stop trolling and play together with the team and stop playing as if you are braindead'' isn't bad

we likely have like 20 more chapters of NEL+Pre U-20+Post NEL

we likely have like 20 more chapters of NEL+Pre U-20+Post NEL

highest viewership - LOL ( they take Worlds 2023 into consideration)
biggest number of tier 1 events - CS
more underdog stories - CS
names - LoL (Faker alone clears valorant and cs without s1mple)
location diversity - CS with Dallas Chengdu Belgrade Cologne Katowice Shanghai Rio Copenhagen and valorant with madrid shanghai seoul
most hours viewed - pretty sure it's CS
it just don't make sense for valorant to be above both of them

overwatch is a dead game

blue lock (manga) fell off when Neo Egoist League started, it focuses on Isagi too damn much

I mean I guess I share that trait with s1mple ( sadly not his skill), he once explained that he is ''toxic'' when giving advice not because he has the intention of traumatizing his teammates but because he wants to win the game. Same for me. When I see an easily winnable game and my teammates or me are just costing us the game by throwing, I cannot feel calm for some reason

a wise person once said ''you go into a game and think you are locked in a lobby with 9 retards for an hour, but the truth is that the number of those retards is 10''

I just want to see if I am the only one who actually thinks that some people are either too ignorant or too foolish to notice how they pull the same exact moves expecting a different result. I appreciate this thing even when I am the one getting shouted at. I sometimes go into fulltilt or fullsuck mode where I cannot focus for shit and getting blamed and receiving toxicity kinda wakes me up ( in game obviously, hate this shit IRL)

it's not really about a team, more about random teammates who might cost you free RR

what if you are on defence and one of your site anchor just gives a free enry to the site?

well I had an example recently where I go ahead and drop 17 kills in a half where we went 6-6, my teammate goes 2-10, he cannot hold onto A site if it meant getting a gazillion dollars, I tell him that he just holds them from the same angle all the time and they just get a free kill on him, he says that they kill him while running and I tell him that he needs to either get close to dodge all utility or stay deeper and wait for help so as not to get caught out by their utility. his response? ''go ahead and play there, idiot''. I went there, did what I told him to do and got a 3k resetting their economy. The guy didn't learn shit

It can't get worse than going 4v5 into the first 5 seconds of the round

but why am I supposed to waste my own time and concentration on clearly explaining to my wanna-be s1mple/tenZ that his move lead us to waiting in the starting menu after we lose 5-13 due to starting every round 4v5?

some people don't understand without getting shouted at. Experienced this shit in CS, had a guy in my stack who would wide swing one angle 11/12 rounds on T-side, lost 9/10 fights he had there, I told him two times that he doesn't need to fight there, it goes nowhere, and he just ignored my advice and kept on pulling this shit

some people actually want to play this? It feels like a weird mix of valorant overwatch cs tf2 and dota2 and somehow feels shittier then all of them, wtf

wait the players left??