Bro imagine if C9 had signed Marved instead of jakee
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Bro imagine if C9 had signed Marved instead of jakee
If I was a bandwagoner my flair would've been NRG up until now and not OpTic. NA is doomed rn until I see the results for playoffs.
I was talking to Rory (dephhh) he said it's Bryan's (pAncada) fault for not speaking enough english
Ngl NRG seems like an empire in decline right now.
Still good enough to pose a serious threat to top teams but they're lacking the strength to dominate NA like they once did.
Their strats are S tier, but they don't have raw firepower that yay and marved once gave them.
It's like a return to the NV days with Kaboose and mummAy
They need that extra edge to be able to close out games like they've needed to these last 2 series
I support whatever team has the best chance of winning NA another masters/champions
Santos isn't exactly the most rare surname
his name is jaccob with two c's lol
force dephh back on sentinel and the roles would look like:
Tenz - Kayo/Jett/Sage
Zekken - Raze/flex
Sacy - Sova/Fade/Skye
pAncada - omen/astra/viper
dephh - Killjoy/harbor
theres only 3 replacements for victor that make sense
zekken
xeppaaa
theres no other flex players that can specialize in entrying in NA (that are proven good)
TenZ, better Awper
Zekken better entry and overall smarter player.
Trust me as someone that would love to see Ethos play in any kind of competition, not just VCT, but he's not good enough to hold his own as a duelist.
Marved over Zekken tbh, man is good enough to carry the entirety of SEN including Zekken who was already on his comfort role to begin with. Also Xeppaa should also be up there
bro pAncada = Marved as controller, it's just that he's being forced onto Sentinel right now.
At first their issue was holding on defense, im surprised they lost with an attack-sided comp with a 7-5 half on defense.
Didn't go B nearly enough as they should've imo
The only possible upgrade to Victor is either Xeppaa or Zekken
Look at any of Optic's comms videos and compare it with NRG's
Yay was setup to frag insanely well. Marved was bad with comms, and acted pretty independently from the rest of the team.
With both of them gone, and you can notice this in their comms, s0m is comming just as much as victor, crashies, and fns. ardiis is still struggling on that front, but his flexibility in his agent pool has allowed NRG to play more intelligently.
They've lost -30% in firepower, but gained +20% in tactics so to say.
EG really brought in the epitome of an NA ranked jett and it's working.
Because clearly ScreaM is the only example of a duelist IGL to ever exist.
Saadhak is managing to do it quite well right now. The main caveat to being a good duelist and an IGL is to focus primarily on entries and not on being a star player--That's how loud is able to run double duelist with Saadhak on raze and Aspas on jett on fracture.
Zekken is one of few raze players in NA who is intelligent with the way he entries, and doesn't go in with the intention to frag out, but to create space.
I only know NA t2 so:
valyn, jonhqt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPo3RJuNxQ0
4:44
Out of everyone in the team, it seems dephh trusts in Zekken to become an IGL in the future. While dephh may not be good at all individually, his calling is decent enough for me to trust that mode of thought.
Zekken is a really smart player that lacks an ego, which is honestly what I think holds back most duelist IGLs. What's more, he fulfills his role as an entry with a lot more attention than he does going for frags.
Now, whether this is just Dephhh pushing his own expectations onto him is another matter, but if Sentinels were to switch Zekken to IGL, then not only would the roles be fixed again like they were when TenZ was out, but given a week or two of solid coaching by Kaplan, I'm sure that Sentinels would perform even better than they did against LOUD.
Roles:
Tenz - Jett/Kayo
Zekken (IGL) - Raze/Breach/Kayo
Sacy - Sova/Fade/Skye
Marved - Omen/Astra/Brimstone/Viper
pAncada - Killjoy/Harbor
Of course, the team would be even better if they just got jonhqt but that's not really much of a possibility right now.
This wouldn't be possible for a while because of the roster lock, but:
Supposing M80 don't win ascension. The best possible upgrade for Sentinels would be Johnqt over Dephh.
Syyko is gone, and any chemistry he had with his former coaching staff and teammates is now gone except for Zekken.
Kaplan was Johnqt's coach under Ghost gaming prior to franchising, so with his rise to the head coach position for Sentinels comes the opportunity to revitalize old chemistry between him and an IGL that has so far proved himself and his abilities in tier 2.
Johnqt is one of the few NA players that is comfortable playing Sentinels (the role), but also able to flex when need be.
This allows:
Pancada & Marved to both play smokes on maps where viper harbor are viable.
Sacy to play initiators.
Either Zekken or Tenz to play duelist.
Long ago, there was a team of players so talented that they rivaled the likes of Loud and present-day Fnatic.
Crashies - the Info god
Victor - the master entry
FNS - the prophet
Marved - The lurk god
and Yay - the devil himself.
but that all changed when riot announced franchising, and each part of OpTic was scattered across NA, sought after by every org the world over.
Legend says, any org that collects all five of them will rival Loud and Fnatic to become the undisputed gods of NA once more.
What did I fucking say. This worked out even better, Marved AND Sacy on their comfort roles
TenZ wasnt the problem, it's just unfortunate that the roles work out 10x better if he's switched with Marved
he joined off-brand Envy lmao
if you're including t2 tournaments how are these stats fair? This dataset doesn't have any semblance of a dependent variable.
If I win 18/20 games in plat lobbies, does that make my IGLing better than all of these guys?
Everything bro posts reads like a trump tweet
If your aim is abysmal and your teammates aren't really all that cracked, the the fact that your team can win a masters means your calls are on point.
Process of elimination, really.
Runi is way better than Stellar.
Still, it's a shame that the best NA igls are stuck in T2
mhmm, and are these... "Sentinels" in the room with us right now?
your jinxes won't work.
I doubt DSG is going to make the same mistake of putting Yay on anything other than Jett
Suygetsu - Sentinel
Saadhak - flex/IGL
Aspas - Duelist & primary awper
Leo - scan initiator
Mako - controller
I swear every UK flag on this site is part of a hivemind
something's in APAC
IGLs - EMEA (Good NA IGLs are stuck in T2 sadge)
Controllers - Americas (Split between NA and SA)
Duelists - Americas (BR)
Initiators - EMEA
Sentinels - EMEA (Sentinel mains went extinct during the chamber meta except here)
Chamber meta was actually decently entertaining to watch. A lot more multi-kills and frag reels than nowadays.
Riot neutered NA valorant when they broke up Optic
As much as I hate to say it, I feel like Fnatic and Loud are going to do just that this year, especially with the current roster locks for all other teams.
I've never really trusted Stellar as an IGL. He's good individually, but he doesn't have much the same impact as other, more prominent IGLs in his team's macro
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