Again, I could see em do well like all Turkish rosters but saying they're as good as those 3 is just bias. Sure they could do good. Or they could just be completely mid

Seriously doubt so. But we'll see Ig

If that was the case they would't be top 6 is my point

Yeah I wouldn't put them myself but I wouldn't complain either, it's the fact of putting 3 teams from 1 region what threw me off

I'll take 2 Turkish teams but having over half of the top 5 being from the same region just doesn't make sense and it's just pretty unlikely actually because the triumph of one necessarily means the defeat of the other one.

Also being realistic S2G doesn't look much better than many other rosters

Well, chill out a bit bro

Can't rank them in order but I agree with the 5. Maybe GTZ, Mouz, Bonk, KPI or some of the other Turkish teams might come after

Yeah you do, if you’re not registered it looks like you Can but as soon as you refresh the site it’s gone

Wtffff dude you did not understand anything I said. Let's just drop it

Dude we're talking about Luka/ Jokic/Giannis etc, all the players you mentioned have only 1 nationality dude. We're not understanding each other, let's just drop it

Wtf do you mean how do I know how they feel. If they felt American they would have chosen it as their fucking national team and not their homecountries??

Again same analogy how do you know Messi feels Argentinan? Well no shit you don't need to be a genius to know

Omg you're not getting the point. American is everyone with American citizenship, but is not the same if it's your second nationality and you actually feel more identified with another country than if you actually feel American or that's your only nationality

No, I'm saying they are all technically American because they do have double nationality but to the practice they are from where they were born and not American made talents. So the point of the guy that made the thread is not wrong

wtf

Exactly, just like those NBA players also play for their national teams, not the US. That's literally my point, Messi is as Spanish as Luka is American is what I meant

Alright then, glad Messi won the World Cup since he's Spanish

Alright I'll correct the this guy's take

How does if feel that 4 of the top 5 nba players aren’t american born

Yeah I'm just saying is not the same to go to the US when you're 20 to play in the NBA, than actually being born there. But yeah if they do have nationality they are technically American. But that's like me saying Spain has the best Football players because Messi and Ronaldo are Spanish

Well is not the same to nationalize someone to play in your league than his grandad being from somewhere else yk. Anyway do they actually have nationality or just residency? Also, qualifying them as whatever country their play for it's most likely the better way

I wouldn't say a bit bad, he literally has almost the worse stats on the league while being on duelist and his team not even loosing. He's been impactless whole week. I'm very skeptical about him until he proves the opposite

Well played but man, hiber has been so disappointing

Yeah I imagine, but I'm really looking forward to see if he can Make Acend that consistent too

Mad Lions had a record of 17-1 last split, that is fucking insane. Only lost to Vitality in the finals. I think that MAD roster did crazy good

Ik, Enzo in Apeks, I meant what better IGL's is there in general, not just FA

Eh, I like Brodie xD

What better tier 2 IGL's are there? iluri maybe? Enzo if you wanna count it

You're right mb

Honestly can think of very few improvements to this roster

Looking good Falcons, holy fuck Guardy

Deserved it, gotta support this type of things

Yeah, all Kiles, Shackk, and iDex have Spanish nationality. Kiles and Shackk have lived here since they were kids, and iDex mom is Spanish, so he has nationality too. Rule is 3 players in starting line up

Kiles is spanish

3 players in the starting line up is the rule for every VCL

Oh yeah yeah, I meant they were doing that on purpose, AYM is just very weak and Ig they were trying to save stuff. Bisk is top 3 of this VCL

Saiz is insane, let's go Dino kidddddddd

Amazing dude, fucking congrats. Also first person to start a mega project like this and actually finish, really good job, VLR pull the contract

He was literally rushing with a Bucky even tho he had money to buy something else, they were just trolling xD

Really hope so

We'll see Ig, I hope your right cause he seems like a very nice guy, just a bit skeptical

Not just ACS, his gameplay just wasn't it. I'm not too convinced, but we'll see

Been watching him play for a while in KOI and seriously doubt so, he is nowhere near what it was and he was not even KOI's best player. Still experience is experience ig

Hopefully it goes better than Barbers

Most one sided game

gotcha

That sucks, are they doing invites? Open quals?

I think LAN and LAS get only 6 each. I think it's up to the organizer of every league, Riot gives em a lot of freedom

Good to know thanks! Yeah I don't think it's the case of any of the players but is good to know resident works too

Not exactly, this is tier 2, masters is for tier 1. Split into playoffs, playoffs winner plays against winners of Brazil, LAN and LAS, and the winner ascends into tier 1 aka VCT

Honestly 12 slots instead of 10 is such a W

Me alegro de que 19 vuelva a Valorant, son una buena org