Alright Anonimotum is on stream rn with KOI streamer Sergio Ferra. He is not technically reporting but giving hints of unconfirmed stuff he has heard. So I'm just gonna go ahead and sum everything up and translate here no you guys can understand. So you guys understand better the context, basically Sergio Ferra is talking about the things he has heard and Anonimotum is correcting him and adding stuff. Please take it as it is, rumors undone stuff and not official reports.

TL:
Sergio: Nats and Jamppi seem to be locked in, the other 3 could be out.
Anonimotum: I would agree with what you said, but imo 1 of those 3 will stay
Sergio: Is that player Sayf?
Anonimotum: No
(Implying Redgar stays Soucas and Sayf out)

FNC:
Sergio: Mini and Chronicle could be benched
Anonimotum: It is way too early to say that, but they are looking into options

Ardiis:
Anonimotum: Has many offers in EMEA, wants to comeback. Still deciding but has 1 petered option. Huge buyout tho

Woot:
Really wanted by, TH, VIT, NAVI, TL.
VIT and TH ahead
(TH CEO and owner hyping it up and giving hints about it)

Turk teams:
No info xD

KOI:
Trying out a total of 25 players in the following days, Link is one of them who was almost signed with CASE. Most of the try outed players are tier 2
Wolfen is not 100% out, he will take place on those tryouts with the other 25 players, Koldamenta won't
Sergio Implying KOI is attempting Sayf

VIT:
Anonimotum: As I reported they are getting runneR, (he said something else but I missed it xD)

Imports:
Several NA players trying out for EMEA teams, no concrete names

The GUARD:
5 players will most likely get picked up, 2 of them already have a team. Actually I'm not sure if they would have stayed together as 5 if this didn't happen. I saw this coming and probably so did they

LEV and KRU:
Anonimotum: Both making changes. KRU probably 2 changes, LEV 1 or 2. Too early to confirm anything
LEV has thought about changing to English and going international, not saying it's gonna happen, but it could

NRG:
Anonimotum: FNS and som out, they might have tried to talk to yay, nothing concrete yet

NAVI:
cNed might not be the only one out, could be other changes

Valyn Trent FNS:
Anonimotum: The 2 NA teams that pay the most are actively fighting for Valyn and Trent, whoever loses might start a project with FNS, the FNS part is more of a belief no info on that part

Giants:
Maybe 1 change but most likely not

GE:
3 changes at least, SkRossi

He is live rn so I will update as they keep talking
Alright Anonimotum is gone, that was about it, hope I translated well, he kinda gave his approval on stream. Remember nothing is an official report, the official reports are all on his twitter https://twitter.com/anonimotum

Lol no, isn’t krea6on banned for being a mysogenist in ranked and been kicked out of everywhere for toxic?

And FA team is not the same scenario guys, yk if Turtle Troops qualified for ascension tournament they would have been picked up before they won it

Who’s the second one

Oh yeah yk who else is willing, TSM, FaZe, M80, and all tier 2 orgs

He is and apparently he is prime yay on scrims. But it's that scrims, it's a bet

I don't think it's that big of an issue

The kid is good af, been since last year he's going places. Idk if the best available tho

Trexx could be full time raze

Yes but it's not the same anymore, they are already in, you have set the rules. You have already set the rules. This is something that could happen again, if I am G2 or TSM or whoever, what is the point of investing any more money in Ascension if I can make it through without winning? I would not invest anymore

On other news of the day according to Barbar 25 players will be tryouted. Link is one of the names but not likely

You hit the nail, they don't

nvm this us bumped

Opposite, I think most people see this as "if the players don't make it to franchising there is no point in ascension anymore". But if the option is to have someone else pick them up, I think the orgs point of view is. "if an org can maje it to franchising without winning there is no point in ascension anymore"

Idk to what point they were paying, but yes still under contract for a while. They had that name because Riot prohibited Russian organizations to be represented in their competition. Probably once they it got harder contracts were terminated but it was a hard situation and can't really make deals with an orgs whose accounts are blocked

I already said in my post why that is not a good option. That is literally auctioning the slot, which 1 defies the whole philosophy os this, 2 leads to extremely inflated salaries which can be an issue, 3 If I'm an org competing in franchising and Riot let's in a random org without going through ascension I'm pulling out of tier 2, no point anymore

You're confused there, they were technically still GMB players they just couldn't represent the org and could not travel. Not the same

a team like koi is exactly the level t2 player Enzo would likely be slotted in. Why should it be unrealistic? because KC and Vitality have a much bigger pull or what? XDDD

Exactly because of what you said, yes. Both orgs are French and specially in the case of Vitality offering way more money. Also even maybe TL if they do bench Redgar

Yeah ofc they getting the Guard roster but doesn't change what I said. If TSM makes it in, G2 will say why tf am I competing next year if orgs are making it without even winning

Exactly why Riot couldn't have prevented what happened. What tell you the org won't completely pull out whenever they want

Then FAZE and the other tier 2 orgs will say why tf am I competing if someone can make it without competing

Ya pero es que no es lo mismo, las normas del juego estan puestas ya, y la manera de subir es ascension. Déjame ponerlo de otra manera. Para ti si ganas y NO subes el ascension pierde el sentido, pero lo que yo digo es que para las orgs si no ganas y SI subes entonces ascension también pierde el sentido.

Realistically they are not gonna get Enzo either

An org would pick them up instantly as soon as they make the ascension tournament if they were FA. And if it is a content creator org and doesn't meet the requirements ofc it is the same. What are you supposed to do let an org like DSG in that has no sponsors? What's the guarantee that Disguised Toast is not gonna spot investing in the next 2 years?

It depends, if they do not meet Riot's conditions yes. Look at M8 in EMEA, created 3 days ago and they haven't had problems meeting the conditions

Pues estarían eligiendo a mano que organización sube, lo cual es injusto para todas las demás orgs que han estado compitiendo. Imaginate que ahora entra OPTC con el roster the Guard. Que van a pensar G2, TSM y las demás orgs?

The Guard has serial financial problems. They fired all the org staff mid season because they couldn't pay for it. You can't let an org with no money in. Literally at the same time you get the report that Xset still owes money. The problem is not not letting the Guard in is what happens with the players

If I could choose I would go for #5, but a viable version of it, get as many of those players as you can but nats Redgar and Cloud are gonna be hard. Like a budget Russian superteam. Trexx Sheydos Kr1stal Jemkin Vokashu

I meant LOL

Para mi cualquiera de las 3 acaba con todas las orgs de tier 2 queriéndote matar y saliendo del juego porque te saltas las normas

Or like the biggest esport in the world?

See why you can't let in orgs in financial struggle

#21

Yes but you didn't have orgs competing for ascension the year franchised was announced. That time you set the rules. This time you're completely ignoring your rules and bypassing someone through the whole thing. If I'm Faze I'm really pissed if they do that, you lied to me in the first place. maybe is enough to pull out and maybe not, but it's a risk you can't deny that

Yes but that's exactly what I'm asking. How do you well-fix this situation, that's the matter here

I think if you do #2 then you would also face a massive backlash and all the orgs that are not handpicked wouldn't invest anymore either. Why would you invest if another org that has not invested all year could take the slot instead?

But again, there are many orgs that do meet the criteria unlike the guard, if you handpick one over the rest all the others could be leaving. They have tried to ascend all year and now you give that slot to a random team for no reason

Alright then, TSM or G2? Handpicking one of the 2 is still very shitty for the other one and for everyone else who does meet the criteria

That is scenario #2. So for example we ask OPTC and they say yes, how is that fair with all orgs that have been trying to ascend this year

Is not about M80, you can't hand pick an org that is not in challengers because how is that fair with all the orgs that have been competing this year? And it is really awkward if you do it with an org that has been there, and still unfair

You would have complained just as much if they kicked them mid season

Alright this is awful for the players and I wanna see them franchised too. We are all blaming Riot, but I am yet to hear a better alternative than what they have done.

The Guard fired all their staff and does not have money at all, letting them in is a risk too big, players could not be paid or have scandals like that. People say then they shouldn't have let the guard in in the first place but there was literally an open qualifier, plus The Guard had their financial struggle mid year so what were they supposed to do kick them mid season?

Alright so we are put in this situation, now what do we do, we have 3 options imo.

1. We let M80 in, which ig is an option but how does that beenfit the Guard players? And most importantly, why is it more fair than announcing 2 teams will ascend next year to compensate and all teams can plan accordingly. M80 didn't ascend, is not fair.

2. We give the Guard players another org, but how? We let the players choose? Then it becomes a massive auction to see who pays more, which can lead to massive issues again, inflated salaries, or orgs pulling out and just waiting for opportunities like this one. The other option is riot chooses the org, in which case how is that fair with M80 and the rest of the orgs competing in VCL?

3. We could also let the players compete FA and Riot pay them, but that wouldn't really make sense because at some point you still have to go through scenario number 2 at some point.

Those are the options I have been reading the most and none make sense to me. Before criticizing Riot let's think first, what is a viable solution that makes the most sense. Please be reasonable

Then who's taking the guard players. You can either let the players pick, aka an auction because the players will choose who ever pays the most. Or you can hand pick an org and help them reach an agreement, but then how is that fair for M80 for example? They don't get in and some random org that wasn't even there does

Riot didn't fuck up, The Guard did, what was Riot supposed to do kick them out mid split when they stopped investing and fired their staff? They could pay them but until when? You're going back to the first scenario at some point, it can't be forever

Ik it sounds shitty and I also wanna see the players franchised but I am yet to hear someone proposing a better alternative

If Jett wasn't nerfed 100%, but now he has to learn new agents fast enough to surprise some teams in tryouts. he is in a rush to perform on other agents since market is rn

#15

Exactly you don't buy the slot, so Riot has even more right to choose if you're in or not. I think if they didn't let them in is because the problem was very serious.

So you're suggesting 2 options,
1 Let the roster be picked up by another team. Alright but then you're selling a slot and having a massive auction to see who picked them up which can lead to several big issues again, inflated salaries, or even orgs not entering the game and waiting for opportunities like this

2 Riot pay the players, alright but how is that competitively fair? The organizer can't own a team if you know what I mean

M8 was created 3 fucking days ago and they meet riot's conditions, if the Guard doesn't that means they are in a really really bad situation. letting them in is when you later get the scandal of players not being paid and asking why Riot didn't do something

#9. The Guard had their financial struggles mid year. What are you supposed to do kick the org in the middle of the year? that would have been just as bad

Nope, this is the same as when you buy a slot into any franchised league. The NBA for example, when you buy a team the league has to accept you in. Same in LEC or LCS. Also The Guard started to crumble economically mid split. If they ejected them mid split it would have been worse

If someone better us found in the tryouts that start tomorrow starxo can still be out

No, I think the doubt in their minds was that the guars wasn't gonna pay them long term. Do you think not meeting the criteria doesn't mean something?