https://x.com/BARBARRcs/status/1803358342456205621
I won't be the one celebrating him loosing his job, but man it was fucking necessary, they need to purge the whole thing. They have to start building for next year right fucking now and a strong coach should be main priority. Preferably one of the free agents like Onur and doombros, so they can start scouting and planning from today

We're gonna have to agree to disagree but you read what I said. If you wanna rank coaches off of results go ahead but I think it's a terrible way to do it. By that logic I could say bzka is more proven because he led LOUD to champs lol

You have never seen dombros work outside of Navi and you're not in the team so you can't know how important he was from the outside, just can't. That is what I mean by proven, take it as you want

Both Woot and Alfajer were far more impressive than him in tier 2. But who knows, FNC usually scouts really well

Onur was the coach intended for the Loud world champion team, and is who built the roster, as a I said scouting Less amongst other things. Deal fell through last moment because he did not want to get vaccinated

Idk what you’re trying to imply with the antistrat thing, Onur can antistart aswell. But my initial point is, you don’t know which % of those strats are Doombros and which is Ange1 or someone elses

Onur is way more proven than doombros because he has succeeded with different roster that played similar styles which means his methodology works. He has also scouted world class players like Less or Shy who were completely unknown

Doombros has been by Ange1’s side his entire career so you literally have no clue who did what and if he’ll be successful on his own. But if you don’t wanna laugh, laugh all you want but your only argument so far is he has a trophy

1 Winning a trophy doesn’t mean anything, you cannot judge a coach by that. We picking up zombs cause he won a trophy or what?

2 Yes there are other coaches available, Onur is a better option in my opinion for example

3 Unfake, BaddyG and Buld are better Polish IGLs

He IGLed 2/3 weeks and the it was Boo again

As I said, it's terrible

xD

I mean I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's waddle

Has nothing to do with being optimistic I'm just saying a roster with 2 duelists and no IGL ain't it

I wouldn't go full polish at all, but if you were to do it I would start by not getting zeek and getting an IGL

I think waddle is Dsyre's IGL

That is terrible

They have more money now, but def not infinite

No recycled talent again

Idk but definitely not barbar zeek deffo and redgar

Absolutely fucking not, thanks

not yet, don't challenge koi to throw

wdym Ange1 is a world class duelist

Yes but it still works because Russ IGLs for GE I believe xD

I think this team wouldn't work very well regardless but if that's the profile you're looking for, Unfake is 5 years older than baddyG. Or Buld who's a more pure IGL

Unfake is fucking insane, idk how good his calling is but he's cracked, definitely taking him over baddyG

he did just get benched tho

Some names I like are Katu, Unfake IGL, globex

It would extremely easy to farm a massive fanbase

maniek ascends with Barça*

Not a fan of going full polish at all and not sure about baddyg. But if they were to do this I would keep Kamo and maybe try to get Molsi

Shadow is the IGL

Dude look at the Apeks players now, 3 bots, Magnum and Keiko they would have been mid af

During the offseason they were in the middle of a split up with Rogue, literally didn't know who was gonna keep the team so no one was in charge, didn't even know who was supposed to pay for signings, so this was the result. And after first split there's literally no point in releasing them since it's very expensive because of their longterm contracts, even if they win every game they don't even depend on themselves xD

Fresh start next year Ig

Agree, I'm just saying I'm alright because this is not what they meant to do, they are just stuck with the mess of the last management

Mf who do you think Apeks is, you acting like if they would have won more than 3 games, and of top of that they have the total amount of 3 fans

Regardless of what happens team is done. It is what it is, this season was lost in the off season when they couldn't sign anyone with the merger. I'm happy because I'm confident next year will be a new start and Barbar and starxo will be gone. Probably Sheydos too but it's for the best.

Kamo is great and grubinho can stay for the tryouts but it's been proven this year that 5 rookies is the way to go for teams in this situation. My dream scenario is they throw manage to pull Onur and give him 100% freedom

It’s definitely pr

Midfield and right wing, plenty of mistes without Kroos

That’s the beauty of it, greedy mfs

Madrid is in better hands 💀

can't, he just turned 16

2 out of the top4 teams don't have an experienced duelist

I could make the case on why I disagree. But I’m gonna go go a different route. Name me 1 more better team than them this year. You’ve named 3 so far

Mb, KPI ascending is the closest we're gonna get to seeing a Russian team

If we're going off of fanbase yea, they're probably the smallest in the league

They are pretty big overall as an org, for example, Grefg, one of the owners peaked 2.3M viewers on twitch a couple years ago. It obviously doesn't translate like that to Valorant but they have Mixwell who is huge as a Content Creator. Fn and COD is where they have the most fans tho. But they've been decent in Cs and are in LEC now

It was harder last year because he wasn't making much content while playing, but if they had a bad year this year they would have a lot of support for sure

Idk what image you have of TH but they have a shit tone of fans. Giants is by far smaller for example

Nothing further from the truth lmao. They merged with Rogue but Rogue is who made the LOL roster that went to complete shit, and look at them now they’re absolute dogshit, nothing to do with KOI

And they have started bad the summer split with MAD but they have been a top 3 team in EU this year overall so idk wtf you’re saying. Also, it’s mostly MAD staff and Movistar Riders staff in charge of most of those decisions which have proven to be extremely successful orgs

It's also fair to assume if won't be like this forever, they had a bad season for external reasons but this exact thread could have been made last year about TH and KC

yeah I think I remember, can still sign him in the future if he wants. it's best to ascend

mas vale pájaro en mano que ciento volando quiero decir xD

Idk what contract they have with him but they could loan him if it's multi year deal. But regardless, no, that's stupid, if they can ascend now they have to, nothing guarantees they will be able in the future. Plus Russian talent pool is crazy anyway

Parties became available 1 week before split 2, no team is making changes at that point, it's stupid