not saying i disagree but anytime someone misses a scrim people just jump to saying they were dropped lol. he could honestly just be visiting family or something. don't trust anything not from the org or the players

it's not your english, it's just written weirdly

You're kinda right about OpTic by franchising terms specifically, but their shady practices are what made Riot dislike the org (at least from what little I know about what happened between them)

Gambit willingly let their team walk and form M3C because of the politics in the region. If Gambit were truly shitty (imo) they could've kept their players in contract hell

idk i just said EDG would top the group because i thought it'd be funny. don't watch them enough to actually know how they'd do

EG and OpTic will always be known as the shittiest orgs to have won a Val tournament

Shittiest not as in team quality, but shittiest as in how the orgs are run. Both teams thrown under the bus at their peak and permanently broken

Sad

ask trembo

(get banned)

prestige stars where every time you reach 4 stars you go back to 0 and also get banned for a week

the voices in op's head

i think he only read "best" meta and not "best/worst"

Best -- probably this one just for the agent variety. you never saw yoru/phoenix ever used back then

Worst -- either double wall or fade/chamber. if we're going by map metas then ascent is boring and stale and makes wish the map had been taken out and left to rot instead of fracture

nah, that's boring, i like the chaos of picking off of vibes and occasionally getting them right

i put fnatic getting grouped because it'd be funny if they did

how does this affect lebron's legacy

Please explain why Ascent is your clear favorite map or how much you're being paid to keep it in the pool

It's gotten so stale and boring to play. Basically a solved map. Can't have fun when the enemy team plays Jett/Sova/Omen/Kayo/KJ (or slightly varied comp) every game. Attacking feels like hell all the time, and defending also feels like hell most of the time.

Fracture hasn't been seen since the last Champions tournament. Pearl had a rework but was taken out and is only now coming back, and I don't even remember what was reworked because it was so long ago. Lotus is being taken out despite being the 3rd newest map. Split has been taken out and come back 3 times now?

But Ascent is seemingly never being touched. I'm so bored of it.

(inb4 they take out Abyss next rotation btw)

ctrl+c and then ctrl+v

if you're concerned about unprofessionalism in esports then wait till you see the teams' social media lmao

personally i didn't even notice the collar, i was more interested in his analysis

The formatting of the leagues is really dubious

Alpha and Omega grouping system is bad

Give us a full table back rito

average tuesday on vlr

one team's player > the other team's player

usually applies to the star player/s

no

personally breeze was ruined by riot deciding to reopen hall again. when it was closed i actually enjoyed it quite a bit

I agree but I raise you this: no one will ever willingly play Breeze again. Or Sunset. Or Split.

The maps in Valorant are kinda bad at the moment ngl. Most maps have something wrong with them. Adding a pick system would suck because everyone will just play Haven (or whichever map is the most popular).

I'll be very happy if and when they fix the maps before they add any sort of system like that

104 kills by dekken and zemon1

the goat o7

i wish that correlation were true but unfortunately not. i got my DL in texas and had to parallel park, and drivers there are shit!

if you're in a place that has parallel parking as a section, make sure you have that down 100%. in some places i've been to they auto-fail you if you mess that up (because it's very easy to wreck three cars -- yours and the two others -- for a wrong entry/exit).

otherwise, just don't be stupid

brazilians avoid mentioning other brazilians challenge ((impossible))

but real talk both are very likeable. why compare when you can like both? :D

You can be a fraud after being good

Funnily enough, this is the exact argument I've been using for a certain chamber merchant

necroing? AND trying to flex a mickey mouse tournament? really?

GenG did extremely well and I'm honestly super happy for them despite rooting against them during the match. All I hope is that they maintain that level of consistency during the rest of the season. It'd crush my heart to see a complete collapse like the old GenG had last season during league play

you're really cringe for bumping your own thread twice like that

this isn't really a riot-only thing tho. a lot of other sports do this because of sponsors

Fair, didn't notice that. Still really bad visually -- because CR was in Challengers while DFM was in VCT, their match history just overlaps completely, which makes no sense without that context

https://www.vlr.gg/team/matches/278/detonation-focusme/?group=completed

Was looking at DFM's page to count how many matches they've played since franchising began (fun fact: counting Lock-In, 2023 LCQ, and Kick-Off, they are 0-13), but I noticed that the match history is also showing Crazy Raccoon's history? They're two completely different teams so it's not a case where like a team changed names... has this occurred on any other page? Is it just me?

screenshot proof

literally unusable 0/10 website

every time i log into this website i see you yapping,,, do you sleep?

would rather watch paint dry tbh

look at the thread -- bro's talking to himself, he's just being delusional

don't they also get points that make it a little easier to qualify for champs

they're pulling the african flag = eu import argument after failing to try to claim demon1 as an import because of his russian heritage

This is an invitation to discussion and not me just preaching. Also, allat warning

The past couple of seasons we've seen teams have their perma-picks and their perma-bans. But, certain teams seem to be leaning against having these picks and instead focus on either counter-banning or having multiple strong maps that they would not miss if they were banned. I only have SEN as a notable example, but I'd love to see if anyone can find similar scenarios in the other regions.

I know LOUD vs SEN isn't over (as of me writing this it is 2-0 SEN on maps and 8-10 LOUD on Icebox, I will edit this after), but SEN vs NRG also shows what I mean -- SEN is strong on plenty of maps. Split is the obvious example, but they also have had incredibly strong matches on Sunset and Lotus during the few matches they were picked. They do have a permaban in Icebox, and this current match is the first time they're playing on it because they did not ban it (this will be important later). But, why weren't these strong maps (especially Split) banned in their matches instantly?

Because the other teams (in this case NRG and LOUD) are more worried about their bad maps than SEN's good ones. NRG's permabans this tourney were Bind and Icebox -- they banned them every match. But, because SEN banned Icebox, they weren't sure what to ban after. They didn't ban Split even though SEN has been notably strong there, and they didn't ban Lotus where SEN had a strong performance. I do think NRG were in a catch 22 during this ban pick. They wanted Bind and Icebox gone so badly and they probably weren't comfy with the lack of info they had for Lotus that they were willing to let Split through. That was obviously a mistake.

Similarly with LOUD. Breeze is LOUD's permaban -- they banned it every match including the one they're currently playing. But that meant Split was a free pick for SEN because it was BO5. Meanwhile, SEN banned Ascent instead, not Icebox. So LOUD's strongest map was out of the series, and SEN's strongest was in. And even if SEN loses on Icebox, their permaban... they're putting up a fight!

So what does this imply? That permabans are potentially becoming a major weakness, because now teams are adapting and are diversifying their map pool to read into the permabans and potentially antistrat the other team. NRG let Split through because they really wanted Bind gone and got 13-3d. LOUD let Split through because they wanted Breeze gone and got 13-3d, and they also don't get Ascent. SEN, meanwhile, has played on every map in the map pool this tourney at least once (once this Icebox game finishes). Not as strong a point, because SEN has also played the most matches. But, still an interesting point.

What do you all think?

I was thinking just that. They might've been thrown for a loop when SEN picked one of the other maps leaving both Lotus AND Split open, but I'm not sure.

honestly, i'm fine with that. good change of pace.

probably the usual bracket including a winner's and decider match

edit: i was wrong

i was worried it'd be a straight rip off of another Valorantle but this one is unique. Good work! I might recommend you change the name though because of that confusion

they each played like two matches total, how have they failed already

This post is a testament to the phrase "trust the process"

Well played, ENGH

i think it'd be awesome as an occasional surprise. like not buy it every round he can like a typical duelist player would, but everyonce in a while to really throw teams off -- buy it, use it, survive, and then get a rifle

i agree with this -- fnatic's struggles show how important mini was as a coach. eg basically disbanded and rebuilt

is this guy the demon1 version of trembo

1. correct
2. demon1 flexes smokes sometimes. i've seen him on brim and astra before

but thank you for actually providing some reasoning. i was expecting another coping "we would've won if it were double elim" cryfest

if you talk a lot of shit when you win, expect a lot of shit when you lose

1st rule of the internet