You know now that im looking for it, its there are practically no highlights of any of EGs matches on youtube and maybe thats why they really are getting no recognition at all

I agree we really shouldnt. They qualified by almost losing to sentinels that at the time were looking like they didnt know how to play as a team

They literally qualified in the upper bracket and with their side of the bracket that should already be more impressive than what 100T did. They 2-1ed Ghost which are also looking like a good team, they 2-0ed GK who beat V1 and they also managed to do the same against Knights quite comfortably at that.
They looked like a coordinated team who really were able to take control over the atmosphere of the games that they played which I dont really feel with most teams other than REALLY REALLY well coordinated teams (im not saying theyre at that level yet but im just saying they gave me a similar vibe to games that I watch from FNC). They have 2 insane players in Boostio and Jawgemo (Jawgemo probably being in the top 5 NA duelists rn but he isnt getting any recognition at all) and they also have a great coach in Potter who has done wonders for them in stepping up their level of play. Think about it there were only 3 teams that qualified for the second time now out of stage 1, that being EG, NRG, and LG. LG and NRG right now are looking insane and id argue that EG arent too far behind right now they just dont have as much clout as the other 2 teams and so no one pays attention to them

I meant in terms of level of play not your favourite teams

they beat V1 tho bruh

I already talked abt EU earlier. I was loving the Icebox match FPX v FNC. Thats the kinda play I love to see and honestly if FNC are already looking this good with their new roster then I have no doubt that theyre going to be taking this masters if not M3C

im facepalming so hard rn lmao

Bro if you dont think EG is better than the faze that was playing against optic right there and the team that was fighting against sen in opens then there definitely is something wrong up in your brain

ratio where exactly?
Sen had an insanely close match against LG which is a stark contrast to their match against them in Opens where it looked like a clusterfuck. Right now SEN is most definitely better than Faze

did you just say im European... damn NA always happy to find someone like you thats as dumb as them

Damn no argument huh? Testament to how right I am

its not about the loss, its about how they looked in their plays and strats. It looked terrible, I didnt see any improvement at all than when they went against Sentinels. The fact that they lost on Ascent which is their best map and optic was fucking running NEON??? That was truly a testament to how low level Faze are right now. In that form I wouldnt be surprised if all the other teams end up 2-0 ing Faze even Sentinels

I definitely think they CAN qualify. Thing is to me their mistakes are very clear and easily fixable however I dont know the internal situation and to me their Bind comp seems like a horrendous mash of too much information and too much aggression and not nearly enough exec stopping power.

Yea if they lose to EG its probably over unless they really pull some shit out against C9 in their final match cause I dont think Faze poses a threat to anyone in this group. Theyre probably even weaker than SEN honestly in terms of strategic depth I didnt think there could be a team that had less than current form sen

I agree that their comp on Bind is really really bad. They have double initiator but the problem is that its super redundant, on top of that they also have double controller. They then have Tenz on the jett but i dont mind that as much cause he pops off like crazy on bind.
I also agree that LG showed a ton of pressure on both sides, they played it great. LG probably has the largest map pool right now out of all the teams in the whole group stage. So even though I think SEN didnt play it as well as they could have they couldnt have done much more with the comp they played.
Id honestly start thinking about adding a fade or KO instead of either sova or skye. Its just really difficult to stop the opponents push if you have redundant initiators that both achieve information gathering with not much stopping power at all. I think Kanpeki also would and should be more comf on the KO or honestly even put him on Chamber cause that would also add some much needed defense.

exactly I feel like people dont give LG enough credit and thus end up underestimating SEN who put up an amazing match even in map 3. All 3 maps were super close even if fracs score doesnt show it. LG were able to constantly keep calm and take back all the rounds that looked almost lost. LG are really stepping it up this tourney and I wouldnt be surprised if they manage to beat C9 and take top 2 spot

How would you guys rank all the NA teams that werent able to qual for the Closed i.e. tier 2 teams? Not all obv but the actual big names or upset potential teams.

Mine would go smth like:
Knights
Akrew
BBGA
NYFU
COL
Skwirel Warriers
V1
Soar
Nearest Airport

Where is T1 you ask? Well they arent tier 1 nor are they tier 2 so i didnt see fit to put them on the list cause that would be disrespectful to teams like Pugstars, Virtuoso, ZMMB, and Teal Seam.

Dude right now Faze dont look like they have enough of really anything other than firepower to make it out of their group/ People were rating them so high that they said they would finish in 3rd. Id say they probably will finish 6th. Even if Faze qual there is almost no doubt in my mind that LG is gonna take 2 or 3 which means C9 would also either take 2 or 3. In the fourth spot id say EG is also better than Faze so theres that hurdle and even Sentinels almost beat Faze when they were playing like a tier 2 team. Faze has been so insanely overhyped because of Babybay but the reality is he isnt going to be able to put up the numbers he did in the open against tier 1 teams. EG is strong, SEN is strong, LG is even stronger, and Faze look like they just try to brute force their way through their opponents while having little strategic depth. If their plans dont play out the way they want it to in the beginning of the round it really looks like they start crumbling and start to rely too much on Babybay just going crazy.

Like what? Please enlighten me with these "other statistics" of yours

Yea it's a shame that the hate for his fans is directed at him and his team

Youve never been on Twitter have you?

That is true in a sense but I feel like analysing a team that had true depth in their strategy rather stating the same thing again and again with Sen is a lot more interesting and just more productive for the community in general. It's time to move on from Sen and give the spotlight to the other up coming teams

What juice is there left? That juice looking Hella expired to me man ngl

I mean they did get destroyed. Even if they haven't played recently that's kind of a crazy way to lose considering they were no 1

So you're saying you're biased? Cause 100T looked AMAZING that was some of the best valorant to come out of this stage yet

Damn I never thought I would see an actual w take on a vlr post about Sen

Yea exactly I've been saying this. He doesn't need to be THE problem to leave, he just needs to be a cause of one of the problems to drag them down. It's that simple. Looking at it from the outside as well it looked like he was the cause of a lot of little problems in the teams mental that ultimately was probably what lead then down the path they took.
Kanpeki isn't THE solution either but he definitely can solve a few of those problems that stemmed from zombs

No that's not true at all. They were clearly not as good as they were in champs during the playoffs stage 1

Tf since when? They probably alr said ggs in game why would they have to tweet it. It isn't an obligation at all

Recently yea kinda sad considering how good at calling while fragging he was before

They literally would've just said gg had they won. They're probably in the middle of prac rn and don't want to bother dealing with negativity right after prac

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. I've been saying it over and over.
They tweet post game, they get hate, they don't tweet post game, they get hate. They stream post game, they get hate, they don't stream post game they get hate. They probably practicing rn, they still getting hate regardless.

It's crazy how everyone agrees that Sen has fallen off hard and yet we still talk about them with the expectation of them winning an international tournament. Fucking V1 and The Guard both teams finishing 5-0 in groups and one of which won challengers just played some of the worst valorant they ever have and still ppl are talking abt Sen. Man no one gives a shit abt them let them do whatever. Can we talk about relevant teams and the fact that THE FUCKING GUARD just lost to 100T, a team that's been together for like 1 month.

Tf you on, optic are more bots than Sen ngl. They literally only made it to finals challengers cause yay goes crazy. Did u see what happened when he didn't play great? They almost didn't make it out of groups

It's crazy that even after they qualify and put up an insane game against LG there are still ppl saying this crap

Who are you talking to rn? I haven't heard anyone say tenz is the best player in the world since masters 2

Funny thing is masters was the first time in a long time that they didn't rely on yay to frag out. I wonder what place they would've made had yay not been craving in the playoffs

they might not have the motivation considering their participation in Masters is not guaranteed. Same goes for FPX

I would say plat 3 if you were in SEA servers but considering youre bahrain youre prob high diamond or mid diamond

I really wanna fucking see a Fnatic vs Sentinels rematch in Champs with both teams finishing at the top of their regions. It doesnt have to be a finals game but if it was it would create the most hype out of any valorant match to date.

no one wants to see sentinels get to masters in their current state bruh. We all on that HOPIUM train to see SEN get so good that they can destroy optic and tg and we can see them clash again with FNC who have already started their climb back to the top

The only mistake theyve made is picking up steel. Steel has to be by far one of the most disappointing IGL in all of NA Valorant. I feel like hes just a player that decided "hey i feel like igling" and thats the story of steel

I dont agree with your take on TSM and SEN. I feel like TSMs lack of reliance of fragging power and their focus on good gunplay and coordination is what will set them apart from the rest. I think 100T are similar and they have the same strengths especially with how sean handles the team but you already put them up higher soooo.
With Sen I feel like sure right now as we see them they might not reach very high up at all but just by looking at them you can see theyre trying out new things that they havent even perfected yet and set plays that arent even going according to plan yet theyre still able to wipe a team like Akrew on Akrews best map. Tenz has also been showing a lot more promise than even the match against V1 and that could potentially be the Tenz factor we saw in Iceland

Amazing...

GenG, NYFU, and Knights are looking ass rn. Ghost and Knights are potentially teams that could beat SEN but look at fucking V1, mfs lost to COL and ppl are still talking about how sentinels are bad rn. Sen arent even their usual roster, what excuse does V1 have?

V1 only went against ass teams yet they still lost. Arent they lucky that they went against bad teams? They still lost tho. Open brac is open brac man the teams that make it to finals are the best teams there and thats that
100T could also be said to have such an easy bracket. Esp against Akrew they had such an advantage in their map pool so all their opponents were weak or specifically weak against 100T. No one talks abt it tho unless its sen

ikr actually crazy

lol does he rlly??

why do you click on all the forums and then post this comment if you aint even gonna read?

in the earlier iterations it would not find success cause boastrer doesnt frag as mch as shahz and shahz also played jett on some maps. If we put him on the team rn it would definitely be a top 12 team alr. Shahz is doign a terrible job rn which is crazy to see specifically him do. Considering he was one of the best igls in NA for a long long time and even up to champs he was still rlly good, he played decently in stage 1 but it didnt look like they were really innovating at all and during their match against v1 elimination they looked a lot lot better. If they just stuck to that and kept grinding like they did in that one day of break after the TG match they would definitely be really good. They made a roster change at the worst time imo