Optic Gaming
The Guard
V1 (with wippie)
C9
SEN
XSET
Knights
NRG
Luminosity
100T

hes 17 you nut

you say faze dont have a team but i think you should open up the sq page real quick

I died reading this

uhuh...

zombs and dapr arent a business its different. Ofc the world are gonna look at them in that light simply because there was a chance in which sinatraa was a sexual offender and honestly none of us can say he was but none of us can say he wasnt. Thats the biggest thing that annoys me is the fact that people claim one or the other as fact and thats what is ruining sinatraas career and the internet most likely will never let him live it down

if anyone is the child here its you. Its very clear the reason why nadeshot doesnt want to and will never negotiate with sinatraa and he even mentioned "brand image" in there, so its very clearly the controversy not the actual player himself. Nadeshot also said that as a player sinatraa could make any team he is a part of better.
To not be able to understand intent and implication is what makes you childish, not the person you were replying to

I thought this was gonna be a ban callout thread but alas its a bait.
If you think those guys are on adderall go back and watch the knights' matches

yea for their business it might be a small hit in the short term, but the amount of popularity they could garner if this team works out and theyre able to put NA back on top. The amount of money and publicity they would get would far outweight the negative

agreed, if she didnt finish him off then dont stop him from coming back to valorant. If she doesnt want him to comeback then provide riot with that "irrefutable evidence" that she has of the "rape" and then we can finally stop talking about the whole situation

i mean if it was the "conclusive evidence" she claimed of having then maybe this whole situation wouldnt be the way it is. The audio clip she provided was the most vague shit ever that could have either been literally anything, or just having regular sex. The reason riot isnt able to come to a conclusion is simply because that clip doesnt prove anything cause it could just be them playing taken out of context.

wait are you sure? My sources say 88%

you missed the other 0 in the back

yea its a true shame what the internet is

Its dumb how much damage it will cause for such a messy and rushed case with some of the weakest evidence. Its a shame that its inevitable regardless but yes im sure sentinels has talked to sinatraa and hes willing to work with them to better his image and to revert public perceptions back to what they were before

Legal team would most likely tell him to not cooperate seeing as the law wasnt involved. Sinatraa is not obligated to cooperate with Riot since its within his rights not to, and so following that most likely his legal team was the one telling him to not just spew whatever he wanted to say cause he might have let out something that could be used against him

thats true and thats what sucks about this whole thing. Both parties are probably in the wrong at certain places but at the end of the day the person that benefits from this more is cleoh seeing as she doesnt have a massive online following that she has to maintain a reputation for while she could have single handedly ruined sinatraas entire existing and potentially future careers

i dont exactly remember hearing the clip but wasnt it super vague and didnt really prove anything?

I think the whole respecting sex workers is being misunderstood here. It is definitely not just another laymans job thats just not true and it definitely cannot be seen that way. It should be normalized yes but it most definitely isnt a job that doesnt entail anything. I dont think she is wrong in starting one and it definitely shouldnt be a REASON as to why she shouldnt be believed but it most definitely makes it hard to believe her considering her claim as to what her reaction was to the experience she had and how its very closely related with what onlyfans entails. Im not saying dont believe her, im just saying that she might not be telling the whole truth especially due to her not providing the claimed "irrefutable evidence" that was and still is in her possession, because "they didnt ask her for it". That is absolutely the dumbest reason for not fully convicting a man that has abused you

Id say the most consistent NA team last year were definitely 100T. They didnt seem to fluctuate much in terms of game to game performance unlike Optic which literally would go from being one of the best to becoming a mediocre team depending on what time in the comp season it was.
This year i dont think weve had enough games to judge but i think TG. Their lan games i feel like were super harsh for them especially considering trent was super nervous and wasnt able to focus up yet they still almost beat optic.
If not TG id say probably Knights, theyre super consistent but they just arent as good as the top dogs. They really stepped it up against C9 and blew past all the expectations ppl had of them.

OPTIC AND CONSISTENT IN THE SAME SENTENCE KEKW

give them some therapists and some mental boosting drugs and theyll win every lan

nerfed FNC is quite bad but id say mainly because they didnt have the time to improve. Due to that i think id 100% say KRU

I mean honestly at this point zeta are probably no 1

1. Zeta
2. Optic
3. prx
4. loud
   could possibly be 5. zeta

I think prx as a team arent better than optic, but if they were to meet in finals prx would be the winners imo

very clearly the teams that would make it are
SEN
V1
XSET

So we can rule those out already, now for the rest these are my predictions
Knights (if they dont make a roster change cause someone is on adderall)
Akrew
GenG (theyre looking like theyre gonna have a stacked roster this time around)
NYFU (looking like another stacked ass roster)
FaZe

Not sure if these will make it
NRG (lost the IGL that got them to where they were in the first place)
TSM (well... i mean i think this one is self explanatory)
100T (not sure about their roster either)
LG (inconsistent showings)

i mean with no practice im p sure sentinels are still able to qualify, the team would stomp any t2 teams and low t1 teams

I dont think a star player is the issue, all of their players are stars in their own right and one of them will lead the game in every series. Thats not a problem. The problem is very clearly mental and this might be because of zest and his mental which leads the team down a poor path. The dude looked like he didnt even want to be playing anymore and he looked happy once they lost.

munchkin is an igl right? So maybe switch out with zest?
But the thing is tho, how good is munchkin really? He was on a team that literally were not able to win a single match against any team on LAN

I think its probably a problem with zest. I think maybe he isnt able to rally the morale enough on the team. This problem wasnt as prominent before zest was on the team imo, back then they just lacked the fire power, but now each and every one of their players are capable of clutching rounds. So id say probably switch out zest for 1, someone that is better able to support the team more consistently, 2, someone that can easily rally the morale of the entire team and bring them back from heartbreaking rounds. Also maybe 3, find an igl that isnt easily swayed by the rounds in game and always has a clear mental, someone like boaster, or shahzam. Those two are really good igls cause theyre never swayed by whats going on in the game (boaster arguably though gets affected in games where they clearly cant win so theres that

so... guess that didnt age well huh?
Forsaken isnt the primary fragger first of all for PRX and thats why ppl think hes so bad even tho he really isnt. The dude creates an unholy amount of space for the team when he isnt oping and he causes absolute havoc. His role is to take space, cause panic on the other team, and take first bloods. Hes insanely good at doing all those things. The fragger on the team, the one that finishes off the opponents, is Jing. He gets the multikills in a round and hes the one that finishes what forsaken starts. Even when hes in ranked thats usually what happens, ppl are just stupid

which map was forsaken playing poorly? I honestly dont see it.
Also forsaken isnt their primary fragger, jing is. Forsaken is the one that gets the first kills and hes damn good at doing it

yea ofc but it looks like theyre very far from 100% after they lost icebox to optic.

Yea I definitely hope DRX win cause I feel like zeta is good but just not as solid as DRX, but i guess this game might just show how fragile DRXs foundations are

Yea i feel like they dont have adaptability which is required for a game like this. They make up for it with a ton of super powerful setplays but it just looked like for some reason this game they didnt pull any of them out. Maybe Zest is fatigued and isnt thinking straight which does happen a lot but this is elimination, something liek that cant be happening

DRX is crumbling under the pressure again. They shouldve been aware of their comps weakness but now they look super shattered. They usually have so many contingencies for every single possibility but now theyre crumbling hard against ZETA.
Players are whiffing shots, they arent taking enough map control (since they have no sentinel this is super detrimental), and they look like they dont have any plans left to deal with any of Zetas counters

Completely agreed. Half the rounds optic is running around for a straight 20 seconds not knowing what to do. The other half is them telling yay to do something and the only reason they won today was because this was the one time everyone BUT yay was doing something

I honestly have no idea how ppl can keep saying that. Drx are most definitely the best team in masters rn. Optic played their best game yet and probably will be their best game for the rest of the tourney; today.
If drx is overrated then I have no idea what optic are cause I've never seen a more inconsistent team get praised so much to be the number 1 team in the world

When Trent didn't perform "oh he has no experience, he's a kid cut him some slack"
When tenz doesn't perform "tenz is so overrated, he's so bad a inconsistent, can never do anything for his team, only plays Jett"

Man when you don't perform you don't perform, excuses don't matter. Trent couldn't take it on stage? Doesn't matter, the dude just isn't on the same level as the international teams. Also NA trash region so ofc he's gonna go crazy against them

1iq take

"could" though I doubt they would. Prxs playstyle is too much of s counter against tg. If it was optic then there's a chance but I don't it with the guard

BR aren't touting themselves as the best region unlike NA who haven't done shit the past year
Victor getting COVID wasn't an excuse cause the guys lows are still the same as his performance in Berlin
Sen don't even practice, tho of they did I think they'd still be top in NA
C9 are just a mess, so many problems and honestly idk how Vs didn't roll them.

He said EU, those teams are all not EU other than acend, though I don't think acend were ever good.
Somehow every team they played just got hard nerfed as if they laced the opponents'drinks with smth. Tl just completely broke down after being favourites. acend were gonna lose their first match to br but because of a harmless camera they were able to come back after still almost losing with a 7 round lead. Half their players don't show up when they need to, and their strategies are mediocre at best. Even if zeek were in to form, their biggest ace in champions(starxo) want fragging anyway so I doubt they'd make it through playoffs against FPX, FNC, g2.
Sry I'm just still pissed that they won champs

Worse result

Agreed

Meh bait

... Aged poorly

PRXs style is far too scrappy and chaotic for the guard to properly be able to counter. They have a heavy counterstrat style and they just aren't able to counterstrat a style like this. Their Comms are also a strength but it gets destroyed by the constant chaos.
Unlucky matchups I'd say for tg

wait that is the dumbest take ive ever heard, I dont even think optic are a good team and i still dont agree with that statement

true

agreed except the last part, it definitely feels like everytime i dont watch the team im rooting for they just lose. I didnt watch SEN v TL and they lost, I didnt watch FNC v KRU they lost, I didnt watch V1 vs C9 they lost.
I watch Optic v C9 they win, I watched V1 v Optic, I watched XIA v Optic (the FIRST time, I didnt watch the second and i think you see the pattern)