I do feel like 2G deserves the spot over Furia, but because Furia is loaded and is giant it probably won't happen, but I could see them getting replaced by another loaded and giant org like Shopify Rebellion in the future if they still suck

You just can't see the immense value Marved brought as IGL

#BringBackMARVED

Isn't koalanoob canadian?

Its why I said they would be a favorite for the ascension GF, I know they probably won't win it, but they always make it there.

There all really close, I think its Zekken in March, Oxy in April and Alfa in June, but sometimes players feel much older than they are, like Leaf is somehow only 21 and yet it feels like he's already in his mid 20s.

Also the favorites should be Rare Atom for the ascension GF and Chosen Clique Gaming also could go on a run, but apart from those two the other Chinese challengers teams don't look nearly as good.

There's not a whole lot on it, but here's the liquidpedia https://liquipedia.net/valorant/China_National_Competition/Season_4

Also, I'm pretty sure you can only watch on BiliBili, douyu, and huya or try and find a stream on youtube but thats pretty hard.

What's even more hard to believe is that Alfa is only 20 and has already won 2 trophies and is younger than both Oxy and Zekken

I mean I do agree that Kamyk on viper isn't the move, but both FNC and PRX were running Viper on Sunset so M8's is probably just copying them

I'd say they are better than the majority of tier 2 teams so they would most likely make it back to tier 1, its just that they would probably be constantly relegated and then be back in tier 1 over and over, unless they end up getting a franchise spot over a worse team like AG or Tyloo.

Might actually be one of the most unstoppable teams ever, bro has a single agent that he's rated lower than 1.10 and he's a better duelist than DRG's duelist, a better smokes players than DRG's smokes player, and a much better initiator than either of the initiators on his team, also he's already a world class Sentinel player and imagine the clutch potential.

But seriously its crazy that he's so much better at every role he plays than every other player on his team and probably half of the Chinese VCT teams. But sadly DRG hasn't really put any meaningful talent or coaching around him to take advantage of his full talent. And its sad to see that DRG will probably be a middle of the pack Chinese team for the foreseeable future.

The inclusion of a heart monitor is a nice touch and I think it would be cool if riot had it for something like clutch rounds or ace rounds in official events over something like the stupid coinbase econ report.

Would you like to see that implemented? Also any other stream features from non riot run events you'd like to see implemented?

Chemistry by itself can be a really hellish field to get into and are usually lower paying than most Stem fields and most jobs are very competitive and hard to get with little job experience. So I would suggest either doing something like becoming a pharmacist, petroleum engineer or biochemist all make good money and have quite a bit of job openings.

But if you want to be a Chemist, you don't necessarily have to go to the best colleges, but instead look for colleges that offer internships, hands on training or real world experience. Most top colleges will offer stuff like internships but some are much better than others, like some have connections with national labs and can get you an internship with them and while they don't offer the most money they look really good on job applications and can support you while your a student. Also you should see if you can schedule visits with different colleges to see which ones you like and which ones don't feel like a good fit.

I think the player you mean is Lakia and yes he is the answer

I think there's a could be a couple reasons as for why, one could be swapping in players doing good and then swapping out players doing badly. Another reason maybe so that they can just Scrim without any worry about scheduling scrims or any scrims getting leaked or other scrim related things.

Also, they are all gamers so they are just living up to their name.

One of my most successful ragebaits yet, not only did I get him to post a bunch of paragraphs, but I also got him to make another post about it.

Most of the stuff I said was written by chat gpt tbh, and I just adjusted some wording a little bit to make it more aggressive. Also I will admit one of the only things I did write is that Cryo didn't start as a controller main because he pretty much only played Sova until X-SET at least in pro play.

You're the one who brought up 2023 first. Cryo was solid on Brimstone during Stage 1 of 2024, but outside of that short stretch, he hasn’t shown consistent value on smokes. He barely played Brimstone before that, and hasn’t played it much since. Same goes for Astra — he’s only played her 8 times total in his entire pro career. That’s not nearly enough to judge long-term effectiveness. And you’re wrong about Cryo starting out as a controller main — he started as an initiator, mostly on Sova, and then played some Skye, Reyna, and Jett. He’s played smokes agents only 41 times total, compared to 67 games on Chamber which mostly come from a single meta. Cryo is not a controller player, and never has been.

Also, what’s the point of putting Cryo on this team just to force him onto smokes? If you’re not using him as a dedicated Jett or Chamber, you might as well pick up someone who actually plays smokes full-time. Jawgemo can already cover Jett/Sage, and Less or Boostio can play Chamber. If Cryo isn’t on his comfort roles, you’re just wasting a roster spot instead of building a functional team.

As for boostio he hasn’t played Astra since Champions 2023, and 100T hasn’t shown any interest in him playing astra. If you're building a team in 2025, recency matters. The fact he hasn’t returned to Astra despite there being many opportunities where it could work means he probably doesn't want to play it.

As for Jawgemo — I didn’t slander him at all. He’s a fantastic player with strong flexibility, but his best performances have always come on duelists, and putting him on smokes or something else just takes away from what he does best.

Yes, Viper is useful in the meta right now, but this isn’t 2023’s Viper-Skye meta anymore. The current trend is Omen + flex — whether that’s double duelist, double controller, double initiator or having a Senti. Omen is the consistent foundation, and right now, this team doesn’t have a single player who specializes in him.

Lastly, EG 2023 wouldn’t dominate the current scene the way you think. Teams have gotten much better at anti-stratting, and the level of competition and tactical prep has increased significantly. Just like teams figured out 100T on Bind, SEN’s Split, or FNC’s 2023 setups they would figure out 2023 EG.

So tell me I don't know anything and I am pushing an agenda when you yourself are making things up and are pushing an agenda. Also personally attacking me because I pointed out that the team you suggested has role issues and wouldn't work like you think it would is pretty cringe.

Apparently you didn't watch 100T in VCT 2023 because Cryo was pretty much only playing Jett and Sage, with Omen being the only smokes agent he touched — and he went negative in nearly every game on it. He was never a true smokes player and hasn't shown consistent value outside of primary Duelist, Chamber, and Sage. Suggesting he can now suddenly flex into Brim, Astra, or Clove, when he's historically struggled on smokes, just isn’t realistic.

As for Jawgemo, yes he's flexible. But flexibility doesn't mean it's optimal. While he has played agents like Sage, Gekko, and Omen in the past, his best performances are clearly on high-impact, aggressive roles like Yoru, Raze and Neon. You're asking him to plug major role holes instead of empowering him to shine to his full capabilities.

Boostio did play Astra on EG occasionally, but he hasn’t touched her since Champions 2023. And while you’re claiming he can “flex Brimstone,” the reality is he’s only played it four times in official matches that's hardly enough to call him a reliable Controller flex. Flexing in rare situations isn’t the same as having a true primary who can anchor that role across an entire tournament or season.

And yes, it’s possible to succeed without a dedicated smokes player — PRX proves that — but that’s because f0rsaken, d4v41, and patmen are pretty much all flex players with massive agent pools and then something and jinggg can also swap roles based on the map. That kind of role fluidity only works when everyone on the roster is built for it and flexible enough to pull it off— and this roster simply doesn’t have that level of flexibility.

This roster might look great on paper from a name-value alone, but it lacks clear role structure and forces too many players off their proven comfort picks. It’s a recipe for role issues, awkward comps, and underperformance. Also, this isn't 2023 EG, and this isn't the 2023 meta where what EG was doing will work in today's meta.

Somehow he got his contract extended to the end of 2027 so I don't think we'll be seeing him gone any time soon

Cryo mainly plays duelist and sometimes Senti
Jawgemo plays duelist and only on one map plays gekko
Boostio plays mainly Senti and some Gekko and Breach
Less plays Senti and Viper
Eeiu plays Scan initiator
There is no smokes players

There is so much role overlap that it would be hard to make an effective comp

Its a gatcha its not really "free"

100T fans suggesting players that don't cause role issues on the team mission (impossible)

They should build around Cryo instead, but sadly they would rather keep Asuna for another 10 years than build around Cryo.

Also 100T has already built around Asuna several times and it never works out

This is just classic NRG, they do well at tournaments that don't matter and then everyone hypes them up and then they fail to live up to expectations, that's just the NRG esports script, and it plays out almost the exact same in almost every esport they play in.

Do you think I should wait for something like an OLED Switch 2 to come out before upgrading from my current Switch OLED or should I cave and get the Switch 2 right now?

This narrative that Sen weren't good at Toronto is dumb, they lost against the top 2 teams at the event and they beat the 3rd place team in groups, they did fine, no one was expecting Sen to win the event besides delusional Sen fans.

I swear the people who say stuff like this are the same people who will call a team ass unless they win an event and then call the event a mickey mouse tournament because that team won.

I was hoping for NRG to be in BLG's group but I guess TEC will just have to beat them instead

Also group d is pretty insane

It was fine last year but a lot of people complained about it and they changed it and now its even worse

Mikes

I mean I'm all for Marved praise but is there a reason that there are suddenly so many threads and comments about Marved or Mentions Marved?

#MarvedTheTrueGoat#MarvedWin#BringMarvedBack#KingMarved

Marved is a good shout but Scream still takes the cake as best IGL he was just built different

This is always what they always say, and then NRG do well in an event that doesn't matter for masters/champs and then they get overhyped which makes me choose them in my pickems and then they disappoint me and ruin my pickems

Flex1n is the second best player on DRG and is usually right behind vo0kashu in terms of kills, and then shooting is about the only thing spiritZ1 can do. Cangshu is a lost cause and probably will be benched for akeman so he doesn't count

DRG has the experience and shooters to win easily, I mean sometimes sometimes they lose against teams that are worse than them, but if they play like they do against EDG or like they do when they are on a run in the lower bracket then they should easily make it back

I'm sure that some random below Plat VLR user who has never actually IGL'd and doesn't have any pro experience knows better than the Sentinels coach, IGL, and all of the analyst they have.

If Johnqt says that its easier to call on initiator than senti then its probably easier, its also why other IGL's have started to play more initiator over senti. Also you can clearly tell that Johnqt is calling better on initiator, his reads and rotations look way better than they did last year.

Imagine if instead they replaced Zellsis with Leaf

I agree that Nicc isn't bad unlike cangshu I just think that maizi was a little better and I do understand why they dropped maizi because they pretty much had 3 initiator players and maizi was performing the worst at the time.

But I do think that getting rid of shion7 for cangshu is possibly one of the worst roster moves they could have done.

Is there any info on Chinese Challengers and Ascension, because VLR doesn't have any info regarding any events, games or even teams participating. Also is there a reason for the lack of information, like is China not doing a challengers league or are they just starting really late or is there something else?

After Toronto any team that's not from EMEA and that's not G2

Sadly most of DRG's roster moves are terrible apart from replacing nizhaoTZH with Flez1n, keeping vo0kashu, and maybe picking up spiritZ1 if he gets better at stuff other than just aiming.

But dropping shion7 and maizi were bad decisions, they may not have been the best but they are certainly better than Cangshu and Nicc.

Also dropping TvirusLuke might be a terrible move if spiritZ1 doesn't get better.

Didn't Sen benching pancada actually help them though?

They should've won then

Shitty Mickey Mouse format will automatically make it worse

And DRX ready for their annual 5-6th place

Its because flashback just left during an important part of stage 1 and has done this several times, and he requested a leave but didn't really give DRX the choice to say no

I mean its the year of the chokers there might be a chance even PRX won a trophy, also the narrative of C9's first international since like 2021 would be crazy.

I feel like it would be helpful for the teams if they did so they have a chance to practice it but I doubt they will

KC and Nova would pretty much have to win playoffs in order to qualify and TLN doesn't have it much easier.

Also I know other people have already said it but G2 and Sen are basically already qualified

EMEA had a single team in playoffs, NA had 2, EMEA has a single team at every event that does well all the others don't. Also we've seen time and time again more time does not equal more better, its why all the first seeds lost their first games.

EMEA fans always making excuses, if this if that and yet they still lost.