I'd say cs is generally more entertaining, but I would be lying if I didn't say that it sometimes feels like they're playing for nothing. Also, if you don't like how long it is now, just wait for franchising lol

wait where did you get this?
vlr has it at 15 points for 11-12 and 20 for 9-10
(https://www.vlr.gg/event/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers/group-stage)
and liquipedia say that 15 points is the minimum secured points, so same thing
(https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/Circuit_Points/North_America)

ok but here if sen win against c9, they finish with 50 circuit points, if ghost finish top 4 they finish with 55 and if they finish 5-6, they end up with 45. there's no scenario where they tie if sen wins, no?

so am I, idk about cowboy tho

yeah idk what was his source

for the logs that are coming soon

he said top 4 would mean a tie with sen, so it logically follows that top5-6 would have sen with more circuit points (I think)

Vanity said autumn leaving didn't impact the "inner workings" of cloud9 that much
https://youtu.be/9eSTseyauo0?t=314

yes, thats why I said 5-6 in my comment

they would only tie if sen lose against c9

fokus should've won against g2

I think ghost can finish 5-6 and sen would be ahead of them if they beat c9

why 100t fans hate tenz so much lmao

rivalry of the washed

https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1533391701594648576?s=20&t=zYWqiazFDVnSCIdan9Rb1A
bro this shit aged horribly

I mean, if they somehow win masters and champs and become the best team itw then I'm sure they'll find a way in for sure, but even something remotely close to that seems really unlikely

well if its their mental then the other players can stream as well you know? if it's not about money then their viewer count doesnt really matter

rumored 8 - 10 spots for NA, LATAM and BR, probably 5-7 na teams, optic, c9, 100t probably locked in, the other teams are most likely teams with rosters already (sen, the guard, evil geniuses, xset, tsm) or are rebuilding with other players (t1).

they're still getting paid and the other guys can stream as well

no way you actually think xeta wanted to move to t1 mid tournament with c9 just to sit and do nothing asides from mickey mouses for months and hope they get franchised when he could be potentially be at masters and champs with c9

stats? really?

if guard beat nrg then they're already in, they can also get 5 extra circuit points if they beat c9 which would give them more room to play in case 100t or nrg dont finish top 6

tsm sen and c9 out, one of nrg and guard will be out next week

I need to see that pov holy fuck

its bait, btw did you find that podcast about zander igling?

hiko top 3 igl of all time

yeah I see it, but I think it's mostly the hair, would be interesting to see face only because I think they kinda still do look alike

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no org that would sign them will get to franchising unfortunately

thats a serious issue, riot probably already has a list of orgs that might get into franchising, and all of them either have a team already or are rebuilding (t1). What org that could get in franchising, would buy the roster? They're either being signed as a tier 2 team with tier 2 salaries or they might disband

fpx and fnatic by far the favorites for now imo

loud pay 1.01 in betting sites, that's just sad

tbf they have done a lot for the scene, considering they own nerdstreet and have always had a team with what I assume to be good salaries. Whats really funny tho is that we will most likely see steel as IGL in one of NA's 6 or 7 teams in franchising in 2023

thats business for ya

stellar and derrek have been streaming almost daily, he's probably not streaming in case they lose and he gets shahzam'd

because masters will only have 12 slots

why did you put the title in quotation marks, it looks like you're responding to the people who say that when you're the one who's saying that

read their name again and reevaluate if he's fr

show her your ranked history and ask her to carry you out of silver

eeiu is losing tho

still gambit but it's a matter of time before another org signs them because gambit is not getting franchising in a million years

airport?

tsm really beat 100t three times in a row only to depend on them losing their next 2 matches for tsm to even have a chance of play offs... common tsm

both can lose this match and still qualify

I dont think round difference would matter there

I love zander but nah cmon

4 players 🔥

enzo = fearoth

I mean derke was impressive but most people who followed vrl promotion last season knew who alfajer was, it says more about other teams scouting imo

he owns a nation