y0y

1. Sentinels (AVG rank 2.03)
2. GenG (AVG rank 3.39)
3. PRX (AVG rank 4.09)
4. Fnatic (AVG rank 5.49)
5. LOUD (AVG rank 6.20)
6. NRG (AVG rank 6.36)
7. Karmine Corp (AVG rank 7.04)
8. Heretics (AVG rank 7.83)
9. Leviatan (AVG rank 9.61)
10. NAVI (AVG rank 10.07)
11. EDG (AVG rank 10.51)
12. DRX (AVG rank 10.63)
13. T1 (AVG rank 10.96)
14. FUT (AVG rank 11.96)
15. FPX (AVG rank 13.84)

NOTE: I chose the 15 teams, so near the bottom, there will definitely be teams that don't deserve to be on this list (i.e. FPX).

Thoughts?

do you think one of TH/KC dont qual to Madrid if playoffs was double elim?

didn't want to have only one chinese team lol...

https://strawpoll.com/eNg69jr63nA

I chose 15 of what I thought are the best teams, let me know which teams should be added/removed.

me

demon1 can play smokes on raze maps, marved Viper, crashies senti, Ethan init.

we played bad against SEN. They deserved to win. I still have confidence in NRG though, even though we beat two horrible teams we only lost one match against the world champions. by the eye test, they look pretty good, almost certainly a top-5 and likely a top-3 team within Americas. Doesn't mean we have to keep saying "SEN got lucky".

rahhhh Mongolian valorant

bro does no one get the reference lmao

prx finals comp

JohnQT Astra
Zellsis Breach
Sacy Fade
Zekken Neon
TenZ Yoru

this actually seems reasonable

i had to do a double take when i saw the m8 flair

Duelist - 2022 yay
Sentinel - 2021 nAts
Smokes - 2022 MaKo
Initiator - 2023 Leo
Flex/IGL - saadhak

y0y

too bad no one on here understands what a centimeter is

At one point TALON had less points than them

Here's what you guys voted for!

S Tier

1. Paper Rex (AVG rank 1.29th)

A Tier

2. T1 (AVG rank 3.18th)

A- Tier

3. DRX (AVG rank 3.93th)
4. Bleed (AVG rank 3.96th)

B Tier

5. ZETA (AVG rank 5.89th)
6. RRQ (AVG rank 6.44th)
7. GenG (AVG rank 6.76th)
8. Team Secret (AVG rank 7.11th)

C Tier

9. Global Esports (AVG rank 8.42th)
10. Talon Esports (AVG rank 8.87th)

D Tier

11. DFM (AVG rank 10.16th)

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shameless bump cause no one voted

https://strawpoll.com/kjn180bK0yQ

Here's the results of the poll, I changed the scoring system so now we can find out average rankings.

S Tier

1. Fnatic (AVG 1.71th place)

No surprise, Fnatic as the consensus #1 team.

A Tier

2. NAVI (AVG 3.47th place)
3. FUT (AVG 3.49th place)

These two were very close lmao. Makes sense tho, they do seem a step above the other teams.

B+ Tier

4. Vitality (AVG 4.47th place)
5. Liquid (AVG 5.29th place)

B Tier

6. GiantX (AVG 6.45th place)
7. Karmine Corp (AVG 6.67th place)

C Tier

8. Gentle Mates (AVG 7.98th place)
9. BBL (AVG 8.37th place)
10. Team Heretics (AVG 8.92th place)
11. KOI (AVG 9.14th place)

This last tier I felt was close enough that there wasn't really a good place to separate them.

Thoughts?

nah this is vlr's overall rankings through a poll

https://strawpoll.com/xVg7j0b1enr

Here are the rankings for the Americas teams as voted by you guys. I've split them up into tiers as some of them were pretty close.

S Tier

1. NRG

No surprise there.

A Tier

2. Leviatan
3. Sentinels
4. LOUD

When I checked the results throughout these 3 teams were consistently changing places, which makes sense, I think these teams are a step above the next ones.

B+ Tier

5. G2

B Tier

6. C9
7. 100T

I wasn't expecting such a close gap here tbh, maybe Boostio's signing contributed to recency bias because at first 100T was a lot lower, below FURIA even. G2 was quite a bit above the other two, hence the separate tier.

C Tier

8. FURIA
9. KRU

Not much to say here.

D Tier

10. EG
11. MIBR

Also not much to say here.

Might do an EMEA one soon.

Thanks for all of the votes guys, I'll make a follow-up post in a bit

A section of the agent metas would be cool! If you need help with any of the writing then I'm sure a lot of ppl here would like to help

I've seen a lot of different opinions so here's a poll for everybody
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvvlRw1nv

ThatsCrazy

ASCENT

Demon1 - Jett
Ethan - KAY/O
Victor - Killjoy
Crashies - Sova
Marved - Omen

HAVEN
Demon1 - Jett
Ethan - Skye
Victor - Killjoy
Crashies - Viper
Marved - Omen/Harbor

The other route is to put Ethan on Omen, Marved Viper, Crashies Skye

BIND
Demon1 - Chamber
Ethan - Skye
Victor - Raze
Crashies - Viper
Marved - Brimstone

LOTUS
Demon1 - Astra
Ethan - Skye
Victor - Raze
Crashies - Killjoy
Marved - Viper

SUNSET
Demon1 - Chamber
Ethan - Breach
Victor - Raze
Crashies - Fade
Marved - Omen

These types of comps fit this roster the best IMO, chamber double initator allows victor to play duelist, ethan on flashes, crashies on scan, and demon1 to cook on chamber.

BREEZE
Demon1 - Jett
Ethan - Sova
Victor - KAY/O
Crashies - Cypher
Marved - Viper

i think victor off of cypher is best as he hasn't really played it, and crashies has.

SPLIT
Demon1 - Jett
Ethan - Skye
Victor - Raze
Crashies - Viper
Marved - Astra

Overall the main player going off of his comfort roles is crashies, but he's played Viper and Cypher a bit in the past, so it shouldn't be a huge deal.
This roster would have worked really well in the Chamber meta. E.g. old OPTIC comp, Demon1 on Chamber, Ethan on Breach, Victor on Neon, Crashies on KAY/O, Marved on Brimstone is basically everybody's comfort role. I'd see them using Chamber a lot if they do end up with this roster.

are you my homework, cause i want to slam u on the table and do you all night

contract stuff + them getting stellar and corey means they probably wont keep all.
boostio is alreaedy strongly rumored to 100t, which leaves demon1+ethan to NRG most likely.

breeze could be Sacy Skye, TenZ Yoru, zekken KAY/O, johnQT harbor, pANcada viper

so it'll be aspas duelist, kingg flex, tex sentinel, mazino smokes, nzr main initiator?

e.g. ascent, aspas jett, kingg kayo, nzr sova, mazino omen, tex killjoy

lotus, aspas raze, kingg viper, nzr skye, mazino omen, tex killjoy

bind, aspas raze, kingg viper, nzr skye, mazino brim, tex chamber

etc

i think the meta for this map is Raze/Neon, Harbor/Omen/Brim/Astra, Skye/Fade, and two of Chamber/Cypher/Viper/Breach/(maybe even yoru)
E.g. for Fnatic, we could have:
Derke Raze
Boaster Omen
Leo Fade
Alfajer Cypher
Chronicle Breach

Or for EDG it could be
Smoggy Neon
Haodong Astra
CHICHOO Viper
KangKang Chamber
nobody Skye

all seem like viable comps.

like the others are saying the most likely comp is:
TenZ Yoru
zekken Raze
Sacy Skye
pANcada Brim/Viper
johnqt Viper/Brim

Last one really depends on comfort roles

keep in mind thief also flexes to raze if mada is on chamber or something

which of the TTR players is closest to deserving franchising?

victor is third best flex in the world behind chronicle and forsaken and clears players like Rb, zyppan, etc

I'm assuming when there is a double controller map, Vanity will flex to KJ, similarily to how he used to with the old iteration.
For example: Oxy on Raze, Wippie on Viper, Jakee on Omen, Vanity on KJ, Xeppaa on Skye.

In terms of roles I think it's pretty good, i wouldn't exactly call all of them hyperflex but they can move around enough to fit in most comps. OXY's firepower will be a very welcome addition to replace leaf. I don't like the wippie signing but i don't think anyone does lol. overall i think they can actually be a solid team and not finish last in americas.

bump!

im bronze

keiko sentinel?

My list is

1. Demon1
2. yay
3. leaf
4. Cryo
5. TenZ
6. koalanoob
7. tex
8. OXY
9. pwny
10. n4rrate
11. bdog
12. sym

at the bottom is babybay, reduxx, corey, Governor, zeldris, Will, Harmful

what do you think?

right, probs most of the players are going to stay

For me:

IGL:
johnqt, valyn, flyuh

Duelist:
n4rrate, pwny, koalanoob, tex

Contoller:
skuba, valyn, Zander

Sentinel:
neT, aproto, johnqt, moose

Flex:
JonahP, NiSMO, mummAy, flyuh

Initiator:
Trent, eeiu, Verno

furia

The thing is in terms of roles, dropping jakee and runi for s0m and fns actually kinda makes sense:

controller s0m
initiator xeppaa
sentinel fns
duelist leaf
flex zellsis

then on double controller maps like lotus you have something like

leaf raze
xeppaa skye
fns viper
zellsis killjoy
s0m omen

but in terms of chemistry, i think theyre better off keeping jakee and runi.

Here are some ideas:

NRG

FNS, s0m, ardiis are all rumored to leave, lets just say hypothetically that all of this is true and they have to build a team around Victor and Crashies.
The most common idea I've seen is johnQT, yay, Marved, so basically OPTIC -FNS +johnQT

another interesting idea if they can't get yay is picking up someone like koalanoob, sym, or pwny.
in terms of IGLs other than johnQT there isn't anyone else really, the next best ones are stellar, flyuh, mitch, and maybe even runi
the most extreme variation is letting Marved call if he gets picked up but I doubt that's happening

100T

Asuna and Cryo are staying for sure, bang might be gone, stellar and Derrek are probably gone. I honestly think picking up some T2 players would be good for them, here's my idea:
Asuna - Cryo - s0m - aproto - flyuh
assuming they get s0m for bang (which is a little unlikely ig) i think aproto is the next best sentinel they can get, of course if they can get FNS then that would be really nice, so if they do then:

Asuna - Cryo - s0m - FNS - eeiu (to replace Derrek cause you don't need an IGL anymore)

other sentinels possiblt worth considering from T2 are moose, dapr, Dicey, and POISED (these are pretty bad options).

SEN

Apparently they are keeping TenZ, Zekken, Sacy, Pancada, so they need an IGL on controller or sentinel.
FNS is the obvious candidate. other less likely options are johnqt, stellar, and flyuh

C9

0 clue, if i were in charge id keep leaf and xeppaa and probably zellsis, if bang is on the market i might get him over jakee, but i think they really can just settle down and keep this current iteration.

EG

trade demon1 for something >:)

TGRD

i doubt theyd make any moves, only thing i see them MAYBE doing is trading jonahP for nismo but thats probably my bias thinking nismo is better. so i doubt they change.

thoughts? what are your roster ideas?

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And I left the stove for one second to use the washroom.
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