I am trying to say that there are good underrated players still available. What matters is recognizing them and forming a good team, and we will start calling them a superteam too if they win consistently.

Yes, they left in groups and didn't make to Tokyo, just like Leo and Sayf when Guild was not making LANs.

Who stopped TL from making a superteam?

Navi is still a superteam, they just don't seem to work.

Consider it from Navi's pov. They have insane players and they were considered better than Leo last year because Navi was winning, while Leo was stuck carrying a losing team with Sayf. So they won't drop anyone for Leo. They got cNed instead of ardiis, which seems fair enough.

TL is the team that messed up. They could have gotten Leo, Sheydos or Trexx instead of Soulcas and they would have had a superteam.

Even now, there are players like Leo stuck carrying average teams. We don't rate them higher than the players from top teams, just like everyone rated Navi, Optic, Loud players above Leo last year.

fnc was already insane before franchise and they just dropped their 2 worst players and picked up arguably their current 2 best players

Yes, that's what I would do if I owned a team lol

I am just happy that people are realizing how good Leo and Sayf are.

Trexx is also good. He is just on a team that isn't working.

Sheydos is in the same situation as Trexx.

At least now, we should realize that there are really good players on teams that are losing, but we don't pay attention to them because their teams are bad and they don't have results.

Navi has similar firepower. You won't agree now because Fnatic plays better than Navi, but if you asked to compare these players last year, people would prefer the Navi players even though Leo was still playing well on Guild.

TL could have made a similar team by just picking up Sheydos or Trexx instead of Soulcas when they had the chance. (Yes, Cloud looks like a better option now, but back then, he wasn't considered better than Sheydos and Trexx).

These players still exist:
Shao, Suygetsu, Sayf, nAts, Trexx, Zyppan, cNed

Last year when Leo and Sayf were carrying Guild and still losing, nobody here called them the best in the world. They were just considered good players on bad teams. People still rated Marved, Pancada, Less, Sacy, Crashies, and other players from top teams above Leo. Now that Fnatic picked up Leo and Chronicle, "they are the best in the world". TL got nAts and Sayf. They could have had a superteam if they got Sheydos/Trexx instead of Soulcas, but they didn't. Navi still has 4 players of superteam caliber (these 4 players were considered above Leo by most people when Leo was stuck on Guild).

damn

this

yeah figured

Agreed

I need simp4som lore. How old is this guy?

He was still the best player on NRG today.

what does the title mean?

all part of the plan from Ardiis. He wanted them to kick him from sage

Now we know why he did that wall and slow that round lol

I think he meant funny things happening in-game

W streamer

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THE SUB DOES IT BOYS

Why can't you like Leo and Chronicle? They are so sweet.

accurate description

EG had smoke kills too, but it happened in middle rounds, so most of them didn't get noticed. Leo got the series winning smoke kill so that stays in our minds more.

Yes. I think NRG can bounce back, though. They have it in them.

Agreed. Navi, NRG, Loud, PRX, SEN have similar firepower on paper.

EG is really impressive because their firepower is a bit less than these teams but they still win because of strats and util.

He still had a better rating, ACS and kill-death differential than all of EG's players

Both teams had luck, but EG had more. Everyone will remember Leo's smoke kill because it won the series, but Ethan and Jawg were getting smoke kills too. They also had two 0.15-0.5 second defuses.

Both teams are good. Both teams got some lucky rounds from sprays and smokes kills. I think Fnatic looked a bit better overall, but they looked really lost on Fracture attack for a few rounds after Boostio hit that shot near the door while in the seize. It seemed like that round and the 0.15 defuse after that kind of threw Fnatic off and they weren't able to attack properly once they got worried of the Boostio op.

Yes it's true, but you can show them how it's done by not going overboard

Hope the new patch fixes this once it begins to be used in VCT

Saved them, but fair since EG got two defuses with like half a second left

vlr wait for the map to end before saying shit: impossible

Riot pls remind Pansy that Fnatic did not hire her

lol

I'm a Fnatic fan, but Pansy makes me want EG to win lol

He's looking really bad ngl

Yeah she's annoyying af

Mini and Sliggy have said that Fnc can play Pearl, but they don't want to show it.
Tbh though, I think their Pearl won't be that good since they have less matches on it, and they might not play Harbor.

0/8

Fnatic will bring Pearl out in the final

Yeah he knew when they had passed him. Maybe it was footsteps like you said and not util, but they had passed him when he turned.

they were walking though. He knew when they used util after passing him, not while they were infront

Botster strikes back

BOTSTER GOAT

It's a buff. Use it on your teammates.

yeah let's watch the game

sounds cool

I think Fnatic should lose this and win the final

Both Jawgemo and Derke play bad sometimes. Chill out.

please buy OP on attack too