I mean if there weren't already 5 Korean orgs I wouldn't have a big problem with it but if half of the teams are all going to be backed by Korean orgs then what's the point of having other organizations lol, doesn't give other region's orgs a chance to rep themselves.

Full Sense? MITH?

Better than another k0rean org

Whitecat is like 16 pretty sure, Zeus idk

5 Korean orgs is already too much in a scene where every region should get represented, why are we trying to add more?

Having 3 different winners in pacific doesn't mean anything lmao, EMEA had 3 different winners and was still a 1 team region...

??? dawg what are you saying? I'm not even insulting Patman or anything since he's a good player, but when a player that is a hundred times better is on the market why wouldn't you even consider that? Also your statement doesn't even make any sense at all either lmfao.

If you want to look at MIBR 25 for an example, they were doing perfectly fine with nzr but they replaced him with Verno (a player who was much better) and immediately became much better and even become a champs contender if they didn't throw at the last steps.

If your peak can't even win a champs trophy it's not that bad of an idea to make changes

That doesn't change the fact that it's still a Korean org...

Jake s0n somehow going to make the "thai representative" a korean org...

They literally dropped their roster after not making ascension that's not commitment + we already have 5 Korean orgs why are we trying to make VCT pacific into VCT korea

Fuck no we don't need another Korean org

Lowk js move davai back to support and then have Primmie replace Patman

Might create the best thai roster oat

Welcome Full Sense!

When will f0ria get kicked out

BOOM 26 LFG

Sayf like a polar bear in arlington texas

Fennel wanted to keep him prob for RBHG

Talon does exist

Kickoff-Wise:

1. NRG
2. G2
3. MIBR
4. Sentinels
5. LEV
6. KRU (if Less is confirmed)
7. NV (really depends on their final roster, can legit go from 6th to 9th)
8. 100T
9. LOUD

All Potential Man Teams

10. EG
11. Furia
12. C9

My account was made 2 years ago vs yours that was made this year? who really started watching this year?

So answer the question I'm asking you??? LMAO ALL YOU CAN SAY IS SOMETHING RACIST 0/8 no flagging mf, typical prx fan with 0 stars too, it literally cannot get any worse than this, maybe you're a zellsis word on top of that.

Literally any team would try to go for aspas even if he has a bad year lmao

Who tf is this rookie you are talking about here??? Writing was so bad it made me think you were blabbering about Kaajak lmfao and you calling me dumb no flag Prx fan LMAOOOOOOOOO.

Why would we ever consider 6th man here... he didn't even play the game...

Leo? Chronicle? Alfa? Derke? They were rookies?

Even in 25 Chronicle is still a rookie? Crashies is a rookie? Alfa is a rookie?

Also "train him" is a crazy statement when Kaajak was still the best in tier 2 under Molsi out of all IGLs lmfao

2024 NRG had no good duelist player and Ethan proved that it was his team's fault after his masterclass calling this year lmao. Plus he never says "no good IGL" he says "no igl".

Saadhak doesn't have a good team to lead? Legit the only consistently good player on that team is Suygetsu lmfao put Boaster on the current KC roster and he wouldn't get to a single LAN or regional grand final. Also unlike T1, FNC didn't have internal issues in 2023, FNC wouldn't have gotten anywhere if Derke crashed out there instead of VIT.

Optic and Loud isnt superteam lmao

OPTIC was already known as the NA superteam from 2021 with envy and the loud roster was already the best in Brazil before getting signed to LOUD lmao 0/8

Saadhak hasn't had a half decent team since LOUD while Boaster has had some of the best players in the world on his team every year and FNC was also never to be seen in Bangkok either so idk what your Toronto comment is supposed to imply.

OPTIC and LOUD were both considered superteams that FNS and Saadhak both lead to a trophy + the best yearly performance of all time, Stax lead the Korean T1 superteam to a trophy too, Gambit was considered the Russian superteam in 2021 and some people even considered FPX the European powerhouse/superteam that Ange1 lead to a trophy.

This was the first bo5 that babybay played against NRG btw

Rookies who were unproved against players who were already known to be the best + saadhak has tried to put phoenix onto every single comp since 24

"No igl" for NRG 24 like Ethan didn't go on to win a trophy as IGL with an actual duelist player.

"No igl" for VIT 25 like Unfake wasn't an IGL and they had internal problems still lmfao

Has had some of the best players itw for every single year in franchising and some people still thinking that Boaster is not getting carried

Rosters not finished yet + pretty sure fennel wanted to keep aace for RBHG

https://www.vlr.gg/493056/ewc-is-an-s-tier-tournament
https://www.vlr.gg/513176/why-people-thin-ewc-is-mickey
https://www.vlr.gg/514506/ewc-is-not-a-mickey
https://www.vlr.gg/509199/ewc-value
https://www.vlr.gg/513140/stop-calling-ewc-micky-mouse

Now where's your proof that you are in the majority again?

the majority of my region does not take ewc seriously…

Yeah and the majority of your fanbase are TH/FNC fans who glazed them being in the top 2 as a success. 0/8

??????

We are taking about the status/ranking it gives not the fucking money lmao, jumping into something without knowing anything is crazy.

Your region is not the same as your opinion lmfao, you can generalize something if the majority agrees with it, the majority being your region (not only you btw) took EWC seriously. This is like saying "omg brazil isn't toxic!!!" when there is like one Brazilian fan not being toxic lmfao.

You don't need to be an ascension team to be a tier 2 team what the fuck are you saying lmfao

So we seriously thinking that C9 is even a relatively good tier 1 team? like I said before half of the teams in tier 2 NA would 2-0 them.

You are also not the majority lmfao there were more people in your region taking EWC seriously than the people who weren't.

So we js ignoring that KlanNaLan qualified over KPI, UCAM, and Ramboot??? (tier two teams btw). Also we ignoring that Eintracht is a tier 2 team too??? 0/8

And how tf does this have anything to do with what I just said???

We are saying this like C9's team even deserves tier 1 lmfao half of the NA tier 2 teams would be better than them.

if you look at emea T2 teams none of them was playing random emea t5 team's

These "random emea t5 teams" won their region's qualifiers and also beat other tier 2 EMEA teams?????

Your region was taking EWC pretty seriously for a while...

2 Americas teams qualified from play-ins and no EMEA teams won the play-ins?

We gon be putting ZETA up there now

Ngl probably the root cause of the drama in liquid but lowk completely valid, if I couldn't play the roles I'm best at and my flex player can't flex then I would crash out too.