It makes no sense to not allow it, the only reason why it's not allowed it's because they didn't think this precise situation could happen.
(WDYM by RNG ?)

They can't, but they should be able to do

So you basically want to rid of partner team ?

Definitely, always good to gives incentive to invest into T2

Could be a compromise, but I think if the structure want to make some change in the roster with the T1 team, they could be allowed, it's always good to gives incentives to invest into T2

I'm talking about their academic team that won fair and square

Yup, exactly

Their academic team should have enough point to participate into the qualifying tournament, the ranking should be :

• Stellae (120 Points)
• LOS (70 points)
• RED Canid (70 points)
• Team Solid (60 points)
• 2G Acamedic (60 points)
• Corinthian (60 ponts, they currently have 65 because 2G doesnt count, so they inherited 5 points from them)

If 2G main team isn't able to play in ascention, they should 100% being allowed to participate in ascention since their Academy would have enough point. They invested into the scene and got place decent enough to have a place in ascention qualifier, so this is unfair

Thats race not individual è.é

GL

Like sure it’s kinda stupid that MIBR and WOL could possibly make champ ?
Why ? They did good during the year, last year we saw Sen that wasnt that good that managed to go to world and make a good run, it's nice that it's not only split 2.

I just think we can have both a point system and an LCQ :

• Top 2 --> Champs
• 1st in point --> Champs
• Other team go in LCQ that is play during the playoffs, more point you have later you enter in the LCQ

Any LAN team is a good answer for Amer

Vitality ruining Derke's carrier is also a huge acheivement

I wonder wish one is the best disappointment ?

• KC teamcomp
• VIT Ruining talent
• M8 chokes

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"Stop having fun while we cast !"

I come frome France, we have a special theme flavor themed the "Noiboutine", usually used when 2 team at the bottom meet, where you have to comment every dumb moove as if it was an amazing genuis move, entertain peak : so no i'm not shocked

"it's by no means a guaranteed."
Oh I definitely agree with that, it's a bold predicition more than a 100% sure things

I admit picking a LAN team is an audacious choice, but I have argument to use.

Faria's once says "More team doesn't make cake bigger, it makes slice thinner", that's not true when it comes to give a slot that represent an unrepresented T2 region, with Faria's logic, and in his shoes : I rather have a way smaller org that can make me win a new market, than takes another NA structure where the market is saturated (3 ascension team + 5 partner slot would be the start of a snowball and destruction of SA, plus making the slice even smaller), so picking a 5th NA team isnt a good choice in a strategic POV. You can't just pick the team that have the most result and aura, that's not a good gameplan.

The only question there is :

• Do Latam people feel represented by LEV even in a roster that would have no Latam player
• Do LAN people care if it's a LAN or a LAS team
  If it's okay to have no LA player and people doesnt care if it's LAN or LAS, then it's okay to keep LEV, I don' thave the data.

About LAN team : If EXL is successful in 2026 they are a darkhorse, they are an historical team, and the historical #3 best LA team. With a little bit more success in the past they could have been the surprise. But the huge Darkhorse that is really important to notice is in fact Lyon-6K, it didn't exist 4 years ago, it's a really recent thing, thoose 2 org did fuse together on LoL, probably the LAN structure with the most money with the LAN structure with most aura (In Riot POV), if today they try to have a slot, Ithink Riot would really consider it.

But I'm really open to have your opinion about LAN (You probably know better the structure in there, as you can see my argu:ment rely more on strategic, than on knowledge you LAN structure), is they are any structure that you think could take LAN spot ? Do you think LAN is doomed ?

Becaus C9 is the NA structure that Riot trusts the most, they have been working together for more than 10 years without interruption, and no drama between them and Riot.

• 100T is here since 2018 on LoL, but they have a financial problem and ask to be removed from LoL, Riot want to keep them
• NRG as a structure didn't accomplish anything, 95% of their aura comes from Optic times (5 remaining percent was 2023 a top 4 on Masters and a humiliation on Champions), topping that, NRG they proved not to be really reliable on LoL. They are no way Riot drops a 10-year-long year partnership for a structure that only made a 4th place in a masters, that's the reason C9 is safe, it's NRG they have to compete against, not Optic

Don't overestimate the importance "result of the structure and achievement", Opric wasn't pick as a partner despite being the 2nd best structure in NA history, and NRG has a structure that has absolutely nothing as an argument despite "But... we bought Optic core"

6 NA team is criminal x)

• LOUD
• MIBR
• KRU
• A LAN team (EXL, Lyon, 9K) Sorry LEV betrayers
• SEN
• C9
• G2
• Last spot for 100T or NRG depending on finances go in 2027 (GC 100T is a good sign, the deciders line will be if they drop them after champions or not)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRL1RtzfeSk I was skeptical about 100T at this time, but they did buy a GC team so all good, I just hope it was not a cynical move with the approach of champions

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"Europe is tiny. Only reason they're doing is how massive the american continent is geographically."
Not really, they tried to balance region by size of player, South east Asian and Korea can't really scrim each other, Oceania doesn't have a T1, same for MENA and SA (You will never find Indian player on KR serv). Size of land doesn't count (CIS is half size of Americas...), it's the number of people that do count ! EMEA have more player than Americas... (And Russia doesn't even have a server that would boost the number of player).

If you want to have competitive region and not a region that roll over the other it's good they have the same size

It more easy to split TR+CIS in current climate that to mix EMEA and CIS to be honest.

But yeah, if tomorrow, Riot decide to split SA, they should do the same with APAC and EMEA (Especially APAC, Splitting Americas in 2 mean APAC will now have x3 the number of player of Americas)

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Because less money, but thats mean for less money you have more things

Yes, and the solution is not to split the league in 2, the solution is to moove out from LA and maybe the USA

Thanks life

APAC is the only region that need to be split, it's x1.5 the number of player of EMEA and AMER, and is the fastest growing market. Some market in APAC doesn't even have a T1 team wish mean them their best player doesnt have outlet, and you cant boot anyone (Maybe one JP team as mush, if you boot anyone else, you boot an historical KR team, or the only representant of a market). With

We need 5 region, but with Amercia that isnt split and APAC that is KR+JP+OCE in a part, and SEA+SA+ Either MENA or CIS

That will destroy both NA and SA, best SA team can scrim with best NA teams, it's good for SA competitively, if tomorrow Furia and MIBR cant scrim NA team, the level will go down.
Also you dont have enough good player to make 12 team, that will just dilute the region. BR have roughly the same number as Turkish player, 3 Partner team is already enough, and maybe even too mush (2 Partner team, with more chance of ascension slot would be perfect for BR)

Mexico (probably best geographical location for both NA and SA)
Not really, it's not a good spot for ping. My point about the need to move out of LA, is because every pro is complaining about the city (plus visa issues). But yeah I admit moving out of LA would be really expansive, but with how everyone is complaining... Well, that would really make sense to move out, even if it's to go into another US city. The question is "is the coast of moving, worth the fact pro will be happy" and I dont have the answer. As weird as it is, in Caribean they are place where you can both scrim BR and NA team with 45~50 ping (Riot just need to have to build a server in Forta to do so)

I don't think they have already decided to split, because if they decided to split that would mean they have a precise plan, and few months ago they didn't even know how many ascension team we would have in T1, they are just thinking about every possibility making it a rumor, and taking too seriously by fan that want it. ^^

The 2 groups may be the compromise, since Riot already have a studio in SP

They are not enough good player to fill 8 SA team, and probably not enough for NA (more debatable).

Faria was kinda clear : More strcuture not mean the cake bigger, it mean the slices smaller. The only reason we need more team if is some market are not represented or some region are way under represented :

• 4 NA
• 2 BR
• 1 LAN
• 1 LAS
• 4 Ascension is the perfect number

Since we have a group system we can consider making a South group and a North group (And if they are for exemple 7 NA team and 5 SA team, you take the ranking of the north group, ask the 1st group if they want to stay in NA or play SA next split, if they say no you ask the 2nd one, then the 3rd one until one accept (If nobody accept, it's the last team that is kinda "relegated to SA"), kickoff and playoffs 1 and 2 are held in a neutral place (Or alternate)
But anyway, since life qualify is horrible in Los Angeles, VCT americas should move anyway, (And they could move in place where you can play with everyone with 40 ping)

Also give the same things to 1st and 4th is bad, it's lower the stakes during stage, the current format is good, its make every game having stakes and team not fighting only for seeding

Thats 6 teams per region with the ascension, and I'm against the split, not for the split
The best compromise could be either :

• Relocate the league in a place where you can scrim with everyone with 40~50 pins
• Keep the 2 group of 6 system with a SA group and a NA group, and just organise the kickoff and playoffs in a shared place

APAC without China have 1.5x the number of player of Americas, we dont need China to split APAC,
Paciic :

• 4 KR
• 2 JP
• 1 OCE
• Either 1 TW team or 1 MN team or 1 eastern RUssian team composed with Russian player that played 80% of their game on Tokyo Server to have become a Pacific member
• 4 Acsention team

Asia :

• 1 MYSG
• 1 ID
• 1 TH
• 1 VN
• 1 PH
• 1 IN
  Then add either MENA or CIS based on balance and geopolitical reason for the 2 remainig slots
• 4 Ascention

The problem is USA, just moove on out there, they are place in Americas where you can both Scrim NA and BR team with 40 pings

Horrible news that would both make the 2 region weaker. The problems of both NA and SA, is the league is located in the worst city in the whole continent.

Remember that Americas have less player than EMEA and APAC, if the tendencies continue APAC will have x2 the number of player of AMER in 5 years

Make no sense, and you have now unbalanced region. Same format for anyone is good.
Americas is the region with the least number of player (Under EMEA and APAC), they are no way to give them the most of team, 5 NA, 5 SA is letterally perfect, and if NA is better they will have 2 Ascention team more

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Wat... It cant be THAT blend it have to be a little bit more substance in it ._.

I'm still not sure to understand this theory, thats sounded a lot as cherrypicking on Cosmic Divide

It's not clear in the rulebook, and it will depend on admin interpretation

Tiebreaker rules:

Head-to-head Match Score
Head-to-head Map Differential
Head-to-head Round Differential
Map Differential
Round Differential

Be carefull it's not really clear when the bracket reset, so if A > B > C > A, they are a chance if it's end
A +1
C =0
B -1
It's A > B > C

"We dont have representation in T1 so people dot tryhard" --> "What we lack is a gaming culture" Then... Gives a slot in T1 to Indian player ??
You wont create a gaming culture if you have no representation in T1 x)

"They are here to make money."
Then they should all leave esport, they are no money to do in esport, best you can do is doesnt loose money

I'm not requesting for a national team, but for a T2 regional representant that cover like 50 territories

Bro they where partner for 2 year and drop Latam after 1. If next year their team become full Latam Riot shouldn't drop them, but if they kiep same roster... GOD. Even during prepartner KRU > LEV

What kind ?

"at least sentinels won something with that roster."
I rather want to see EDG and Wolves and champs than T1... If EDG make top 4 I see no reason to cry over not goint to champ

If EDG makes top 4 (Wish is needed to make them both go to champ), I dont see why EDG shouldnt go to world

As for WOL, Sen 2024 also sounded as a loss of slot, and wasnt the case

Pray for no DFM miracle run