(1) Head-to-head Match score.

• TU 1-1
• JL 1-1
• MOUZ 1-1

(2) Head-to-head map differential.

• MOUZ - TU 0-2
• JL - TU 2-1
• JL - MOUZ 1-2

Ranking

• TU 3-1 (qual)
• JL 2-2
• MOUZ 1-3

So in that case JL loosing 1-2 would be out, despite what VCL FR says

They said the info was confirmed by Riot, so maybe the rulebook isn't updated :x

I kinda think it's nice too, I just want to see how they will frame it, i'm afraid a team present their GC team as an aca team and get destroyed

What a change of catégorie would chenge ? They would still not be picked

That in that case duelist are not really vviable and will not be a proplay role :/

As usual you guys cant read so here so here is a summup of the structural change in the Tier 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIMOuw0UUeY&feature=youtu.be

tldw ; Aca team are now allowed but can't ascention, Mixed team can ascention

What is your opinion guys ?

ps : "Deabte" :c

Weird tomboyish voice... But you guys already know it I can make reyna french voice... Sometimes

Problem is their kit, not their personality, dealock got a nice charadesign, Clove is "funny" (Even if xe tilt me a lot) and cyze have potential (We are all waiting her lore to say more)

I can understand this rule, aca team have 2 years lost compared to T2 maybe it a way to balance it for the first year

That would kinda make the scene eavily instable... to be fair it's the first idea I had, and the other are amelioration from this idea.

What is really funny, is that with the new rule "Academics team won't be relegated" this change absolutely everything XD (and kinda make me force to rethink the 3 model)

I think this was a hoax

Seems the screen isnt from the good rulebook... So.. Not sure anymore

You are mathematically eliminated

3 way tie with TU and JL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWf6m0MXQAATPGl.png:large

• MOUZ - TU 0-2
• JL - TU 2-1

So :

• JL win : JL qual

• JL - MOUZ 1-2

• TU 3-1 (qual)

• JL 2-2

• MOUZ 1-3

• JL - MOUZ 0-2

• TU 3-1 (qual)

• MOUZ 2-2

• JL 1-3

Awww this is my little hater we talking about :c

Not anymore for IT :c

I rather have 8 team that are close to playing winner, than 1 good team and then nothing else (coucou Polaris)

Nope, it's more because PT and IT arent sustainable I think

Yes ^-^

I don't (except if myself count)

Weakest region of SEA after TW, I dont see top 1 of VN being able to compete against top TH or ID or SGMY (All of them where getting grouped in 2022 if I remember correctly)

I dont see them survive in the long term, only one bad year and the region could disapear and never come back, as it arrived in a lot of SEA subregion in LoL

Among the 3 solution what would be your fav ?

I dont really play soloQ, more time pass and more I consider soloQ as an heresy on a team game. Only ranked team should be allowed.

Level 300 unranked : mental sane

LoL being horrible to play

Now GCBR will have some time in T2 we will see if it's realistic or not for a GC team to aim T2

Nope, since the T2 subregion will disappear it will not be possible to do this system next year x)

So ? Still sure we don't need ? Some of those rules ?

VCL SEA 2 team per region is just the first year, next year we will have relegation and in long shot VN and TW will 100% disapear in the next year, and that will be horrible bad in long term.

What the 3 solutions are sacrificing ?

here is the script (This time I made one :c)

Hi vlr, today I want to open a debate about representiatvity in Tier 2. Inside region that have more than one country, to make Tier 2 appealing what is important is to have diversity, the head of APAC region Jake Sin Said
https://x.com/RiotJaker/status/1805514362154893422
« In order to ensure that this new league is relevant in all of our SEA regions, we are going to ensure diverse regional representation, »
Alright, thats good, but the question now is HOW, Take SEA for exemple if Idonesia is the best region and Tawan is the worst one, how od you get sure they are at least one team in Tawan in the T2 ? How you can be sure than on long term the 16 term dont become Indonesia or any other subregion of Southeast Asia.
Take League of Legends, when South east Asia and Taiwan have fuse, at first 4 team where from Taiwan 2 from HongKong, one was from Malasia, one Indonesia, one Thailand and one Philipinos, and now we are 4 years later and every teams have a majority of Taiwanese player. It’s even more true, with relegation, when you want to have diversity may cause a lot of problem.

So how can we avoid this ? First solution is to make franchise fot every sudregion that will not be relegated even if they finish last, I dont like this idea, for T2 it may be better to have everyone on an equal foot.

For the moment I can see one possibilty, first you have to list every subregion of the T2, for SEA it’s kinda easy, it’s the 6 regions that just fuse together, maybe add Mongolia potentially. Then you have to install one rule, if the last team of a subregion get relegated and have to save their place in promotion-relegation tournament against other premier team, then this team go in a specific qualifier where every team of this specific qualifier will be from the same subregion, if no team of premier qualify to promotion, then the qualifier will feature the relgated team and the best premier team, then we are sure that this subregion will have at least one team. The teams that will lose this subregion qualifier can either, be eliminated, or just put back in the main promotion tournament, with ever premier team coming from other subregion.
The problem with that system is that you have to be sure you dont have the same number of subregion qualifier than you have relegated team, because if you do, you can’t make a main qualifier for the premier team that come from the best region. Because lets say you have only 2 relegated team, and the 2 relegated team where the last team from their subregion, you will to create 2 subregion qualifier that will take the 2 spot in the league, and that mean, you cant have a qualifier from the teams that dont come from the other subregion.
To be sure that doesn’t happen, you have to be sure that at least one team coming from a subregion with more than 1 team in the league will be relegated, and to do that, you have 3 possibilitys :

• First possibility, if you have a unique group, you need to have as mush as relegated team than you have subregion. So, if in SEA you have 6 subregion, you need to have at least, every split, 6 team that are relgated and having to play up and down against Premiers team. In that scenario if you have 5 subregion with one team that et all relegated and having to play in subregion qualifier, the 6th team that will be relegated will be from the region with most of the teams.
• Second possibility, still for a unique group, you can add in the rule that a certain number of team will be relegated, and among every subregion with more than one team the last team will be also relgated, wish mean, if 2 teams are relegated, Thailand got 10 team with none of them being bottom 2, and every other subregion have 1 team, then the last team of Thaland will be relegated and placed in the main qualifier in the promotion-relegation, while the 2 team that get relegated will have to play in their subregion qualifier before playing the main qualifier.
• Third possibility : Doing 2 group of 8 based on subregion, and putting every subregion with 1 team in the same group, with that system you can be sure in the other group you will have a team from a subregion that have more than one team that will finish last because the other group if full of team coming from a subregion with more than 1 team.

So tell me vlr, what is your favorite solution to be sure every subregion got at least 1 représentant ? Telle me in the comment, and… Byye.

Again vlr you hate read, so as usual I made a video again.

I want your opinion about Suprenational region like SEA, IBIT, East, North, region that have more than one language, and how to be sure at least one team represent every language (subregion), here is 3 solution to be sure every subregion is represented in the T2.

What do you prefer guys ? Not having anything that ensure that every subregion is represented ? HJaving a lot of team that are relegated ? A rule that will relegate the last of the subregions that have more than 1 teams ? 2 group ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_fOPBPWl_w

I like how it look like

FFNC and TH wasnt actual teams ?

They litterally won the event how, can that be a fluke to go in Madrid.

Even if it was a double round robin they would have still loss in final and still qual

In France we call that "The glorious uncertainty of sport"

You guys need to learn from that, no upset mean nothing is interesting.

From now I'll glorify every "fluke" and you guys should do the same

Gonna change next year, it's gonna be at the end of each split

"Talent pool is already really diluted between teams" I'm not sure, best structure with more money will buy the best player even if we have 8 or 16 teams, not sure that would change a lot

"We quite simply dont have 128 proper orgs" debatable, some region are already full of structure, especially in Germany of Turkey... And to be fair I like the idea of having some amatory team in T2

"Viewer numbers are already a problem. Adding so many stomps/boring games just isnt going to help this. (In t2 the large orgs bring a significant portion of the viewers)" That part is kinda true, maybe only France can see more stomps with the viewer we have, but in some region more team may mean more country représentation and more people watching val. I think for exemple in east Llenovo Honved could bring viewers.

About polaris i'm not that sure it reduce the competitivity on long terme, more people in T2, mean more experience for them, and increase of level

You shouldn't use that number with that flag, sister,

Sadfully org that represent a country sometime like to pick "best player" and just take import, France is full of French org with imports :/

Kinda, both can work, maybe the expansion to 16 teams for everyone could allow more orgless team that are usually representating a country

I admit doing 2 games at once is really disrespectfull

Totally agree, I hate internationnal roster in T2, just go back to regionnal team

This is so fucked up, I literally declared the video was in English ._.

Long term > Shor term

Does subtitile work ?

I took the decision to not fully script, just list looot of point and develop on each one for sponaneous

EMEA bad link, amer was yesturday vid

As usual, instead of doing a huge pavay, to summup all my argument here, I prefer make a video because you guys cant read long text :c

This is about EMEA Tier 2 and it 7 regions, not about Tier 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpNoruH4Xmc

tldw ; I think TD EMEA could also go to 16 team without sufferring too mush from the expansion, some league are already with 10 teams with full of structure, only noth will have issues to expand.

Care, dont remember than last time Damwon didn't qual because India took them one map

It does and I think the recent exwpantion of T2 in APAC and BR is a proof Riot care (part 3 of today video kinda talk about that)

Is ok to say lil girl sweetheart ?

I thougt I had posted my vlr topic about : You guys would thinks LA, NA and BR tier 2 should also go to 16 teams ?
Brasil is already 16 but what about NA ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Yi7oKDdR8

Lets debate again :c

BR should go to 16 team
LA should go to 16 teams
NA should go to 16 teams
You all should go to 16 teams

https://youtu.be/B3Yi7oKDdR8

in for SEA ??? i'm temped to post my 2 videos talink about asia now

I'm so proud of that topic for snooker reason