TSM Downfall vs Sen Downfall

TSM
Consistently a top 1-3 team in early Valorant. Won 2 ignition series, placed 3rd-4th and 5th-6th in the other 2. Won multiple B-tier events, consistently beating C9, Envy, GenG to name a few and being the main challengers to Sentinels' dominance. Placed 5th-8th in the NSG First Strike qualifier and won the UMG First Strike Qualifier. Swept Renegades and Envy before placing 2nd at First Strike NA. Then, their struggles started. Failed to qualify to both of 2021 Stage 1 Challengers 1 and 2 before placing 5th-6th at Challengers 3 and failing to qualify to Masters. Added brax, but used him sparingly in open quals. Failed to qualify to Stage 2 Challengers 1, but placed 5th-6th Stage 2 Challengers 2, again failing to qualify for Challengers Finals. Drop brax, cutler, drone and tailored and pick up bang, Aleko and Chet. Don't qualify for Stage 3 Challengers 1, but win Challengers 2. Success seems to be coming back, but the bomb out in 8th in Challengers playoffs, failing to qualify for LCQ. Bench bang after the 2021 season. Chet and Hazed leave for the 2022 season. 2021 ends with utter failure. Add corey and rossy but fail to make it through either open qualifier for 2022 Stage 1 Challengers. A new culture is fostered and TSM participates in many lower tier tournaments as practice. They add juvenile as coach, part ways with Wardell and Aleko, and add seven and gMd. Place 2nd in a Knights gauntlet. With the new roster, TSM qualifies through to the Challengers main event, placing top 4 in the open qualifier. The future seems bright and TSM returns to the big stage after a year of nothing.

SEN
Run through early Val, winning or placing top 3 in every notable tournament in 2020. Only challenged by TSM, Sentinels is clearly the best team in NA. Win 2021 Stage 1 Challengers 1 and place 2nd in Challengers 2 but qualify for Stage 1 NA Masters. Sinatraa is suspended. They win Masters with TenZ subbing in. Buy out TenZ and add him to the team in place of Sinatraa. Don't qualify for Stage 2 Challengers 1 (fluke) but win Challengers 2. Run through the upper bracket and win Stage 2 Challengers Finals to qualify for Masters Reykjavik where they don't drop a map and win the first international LAN. They continue their winning ways in NA, winning both Challengers 1 and Challengers Finals for Stage 3. They place 5th-8th at Masters Berlin, losing to Envy and troubles start to brew. Add Rawkus amidst talks of their lack of discipline without a coach. Get grouped (9th-12th) at Champions. Rawkus is unable to stay for the 2022 season. Rumors about work ethic and infastructure fly. Invited to the 2022 Stage 1 Challengers main event and go 3-2 in groups and qualify for playoffs, quieting some doubt. However, their dominance of NA is gone. They lose 4 straight maps in playoffs, finishing in 8th and failing to qualify for 2022 Masters Reykjavik. zombs is benched and replaced by Kanpeki. Sentinels struggle in Stage 2 Open Qualifier 1, before losing to FaZe and LG, eliminating them from the qualifier. With the last qualifier of 2022 coming up, Sentinels is a far cry from their previous form.

WHICH WAS WORSE? LET ME KNOW!

You forgot about the Mickey Mouse tournaments TSM won before Wardell got dropped.

It's hard to say which team fell off worse since Sentinels didn't fall off nearly as bad until these last few months of challengers. Even towards the end of 2021, they were still a solid team in NA (worst lowball you could give them was top 3). Though, you could also make the argument that Sentinels only got so far in 2021 beacuse of their early successes paving them a solid path for the near future.

Meanwhile, TSM was strong in 2020 but they were shaky at times (still contested as a no.1 team in NA at the time). But because 2020 results didn't necessarily secure any placements for 2021 like Sentinels had with points in Iceland, TSM fell off quickly and could not stabilize at all. Their downturn lasted far longer, so it's generally safer to say that TSM fell off worse.

SEN fell off so suddenly prob them

as of right now I think tsm fell of worse but just wait until qualifier 2 when sen lose to bbg academy

SEN fell from higher... clearly worse

SEN fell from streaming, TSM fell from bad roster chemistry and streaming.

Seems like SEN is falling off harder and if they continue to head down this path I don’t even think a coach can save them.

A good coach for SEN would be TSM academy coach, and TSM usually doesn’t charge high buyout so it’s good.