Marved=nAts Berlin

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valulrantefanboy

Or even more with huge impact

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nats better

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Giannero

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Not even close bro, nats singlehandedly 13-0'd a team

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gold 2 tho

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Gold2 who smacked the so called best team in the world at the time

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Nats berlin is better but yeah marved is the mvp in this event

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Nats had more impact in that tournament in my opinion marved no1 controller right now tho

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Nisham

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Nah wtf
nAts in Berlin carried every round when needed

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nah nAts better

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Not even close. I mean marved is so good but nats berlin is on another level

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nAts almost defined a playstyle for an agent.

Marved was incredible but I wouldn't say anything matches that performance.

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Not almost, he did define a playstyle

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true

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Marved is way better right now

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He's not even close, nats redefined valorant on his own, 13-0'd a team, sure Marved was spectacular this tournament, but it will take a long time before someone matches nats M3 performance, actually, it will take time before someone even comes close to what nats did

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I said rn in terms of skill, I'm not saying their impact was the same in their individual tourneys

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Marved is crazy, best controller in the tourney for sure, MaKo and Sugar runners up.

But he is not nAts, unfortunately.

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Yeah, nobody will even come close to nats peak for a looong time

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This guy was so good he was prob the most antistratted player at Champs and still made GF. Not only that but he went 29/10 and 26/3 in that series.

TWENTY-SIX KILLS
3 FUCKING DEATHS

AS CYPHER???

93/62/31 in 5 maps, +31 like that is insane.

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ogking

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Through the playoffs Marved has better numbers than Nats every produced in the playoffs of Masters 3.

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false.

ACS
Marved 227.9 vs nAts 274.6
K/D
Marved 1.19 vs nAts 1.38
ADR
Marved 150 vs nAts 173.9
KPR
Marved 0.81 vs nAts 0.92
Clutch Winrate
Marved 27% vs nAts 31%

And yes, I am comparing playoffs only.

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KennyJones

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Matchfixer rat.

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ehh its hard to say but eu were handicapped this event to early to say

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Giannero

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Early to say? We saw berlin nats and now we saw reykjavik marved, we can judge lol, and we can say that marved doesn't even come close to nats

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ogking

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Number wise... no. Marved has more impact to his team than nats was. nats numbers in the playoffs plummeted compared to the group stage. Marved although has been increasing the more games he played.

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Giannero

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Marved had better numbers, but if you watch the games instead of the stats you can easily see it, berlin nats is unreachable atm

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Marved didn't have better numbers is the thing. this ogking guy is literally on vlr.gg and wont use it to check the stats.

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Giannero

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Lmfao then not only he had less impact he had worse numbers as well rofl

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i wrote a reply to him literally showing him the stats you can pull from this mf site too, if u want u can check for yourself.

some interesting stats:
in the top 5 acs players in M3 playoffs,

nAts is tied with Chronicle for the highest amount of rounds played (166) and is 3rd, with a deficit of 10.2 ACS.

Keloqz is 1st with 284.8 and 78 rounds, cNed is 2nd with 281 and 69 rounds.

Yay is 4th with a 273.9 ACS in 161 rounds played.

nAts and Chronicle are the only non-duelist players in the top 5.

BuZz, Asuna, TenZ, Keznit, and nitr0 make up the rest of the Top 10. (BuZz's stats are crazy considering his first playoffs game was against Gambit)

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ogking

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using ACS? this is why your argument gets killed. impact rating is more favored on who has more impact to their team and marved completely outlclasses Nats in that category. I've already mentioned clutch win rate percentage which heavily favors marved.

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Giannero

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Shut up go watch M3 games and then apologize for being wrong and acting like you're the one who knows it all cuz you read insignificant numbers lol

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And I've already proven you wrong. Marved has a 27% clutch winrate and nAts had 31%

And as for "insignificant numbers" you literally thought first kills was an important metric to judge a smokes player lol.

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ogking

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Marved has more multi frags, more clutch percentage win rate, has more kills in the playoffs. Actually has more first bloods.

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Multi frags aren't shown on VLR, so I can't confirm this.

Clutch winrate percentage is false. Marved is 27% and nAts is 31%.
And more kills doesn't work because Reykjavik has more games played due to Lower Bracket + LB Finals being bo5.
And Marved's FK/FD is almost exactly the same as nAts's. Plus that stat shouldn't even matter because neither of them are duelist players.

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ogking

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because VLR is not the only website for valorant stats... VLR doesn't use other metrics such as impact rating, Rating, clutch win rate percentage.

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VLR literally has a Clutch Success stat wtf are you smoking

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ogking

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First bloods should matter, both are playing the same position and role. Marved is heavily forcing himself to get the kills to open up the site if Yay is gone. Nats doesn't do that.

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Giannero

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Ok you don't know shit about valorant to say this, marved helps when he can but you literally don't judge a player who plays that role by that statistic

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WTF are you talking about? Marved is always on the lurk, just like nAts lmao. In fact I'm pretty sure nAts's style of lurk was studied by every top controller player in the world right now

and besides, both of them have the exact equal First Kills per Round %, with 0.10

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ogking

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is always on the lurk??? I'm sorry, you haven't watched Optic matches when Marved has only lurked 5 times per map. Even in this game solidifies he only lurks when it needs to be. Other than that my point of Marved getting more FBs matters.

continue thread →

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How can you so confidently spam lies that are disproven by the website you are using?

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Giannero

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Probably worships marved as a god or smth

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Looking through his post history he's a hardcore OpTic/NA fan. Respect to the drive honestly.

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Abdul

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It's like saying Aldi cola is better than Coca-cola
it just isn't

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yaiima0

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Nats better overall i feel like but marved is still close

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nAts was the innovator, Marved might be better now, but nats is literally the player who defined what a controller should be.