Is TSM Back? | VLR.gg

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NAHOR

I think they look solid with Rossy on flex and roza igl controller. Do you guys think they can do good in next VCT?

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helohelo

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no

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no1haterbutloveyou2

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yeah they're not, just let the masters 2 come and we'll see

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yaiima0

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If they keep up practicing then definitely, also if Wardell stops baiting

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yea baiting! you speak as if they're a ranked team. they do stuff on the calls of the IGL, if Subroza asks him to stay posted C long he'll do it. And did you forgot about the 1v4 Ace Clutch on Haven to bring them to match point? you're Silver max

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chapati

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couldnt agree more

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Based take

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yaiima0

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BAIT CENTRAL

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Subroza doesn't micromanage everything wardell does, if an IGL could perfectly orchestrate everything a team does they would be the best in the world. Individuals make decisions.

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DurianVAL

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well ofc subroza wont micro manage every player, I worded that wrong, but WARDELL can easily be relied to hold a peek when teammates push site. But when somethings don't work out on site and no one has gone near Wardell's crosshair, people are quick to judge and call it a bait when in the players POV none of his teammates think hes baiting

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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I definitely think the baiting narrative is over exaggerated but there's some truth behind it.

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Noble efforts, but I personally never try to explain his playstyle to people. They're gonna say "KEKW WARDELL BAITER" regardless, and I have no credibility to convince them otherwise. he's the best OP NA, and he plays just like any other OP player on attack. Peek an angle using teammate utility early, hold heaven, hold flank. I'm very vocal that I want him to be able to rifle on attack, but TSM does really well when he sticks with the team and slowly takes ground on attack. TSM doesn't do well when he's defaulting alone on the other side of the map and taking zero map control.

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DELUSIONAL_POTTER_FAN

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yes destroying tier 3 teams!

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trapdime

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... so geng, t1, faze are tier 3 teams good..!!

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imo those teams u listed are borderline t3 mayb t2

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Pocket

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Woah woah woah. Don't call tier 4 teams, tier 3, that's an insult to actual tier 3 teams.

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yffim

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HAHA u right

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eh, depends on what u mean by "back." they have to be consistent to make it through VCT. They can't throw an 11-6 third map to Knights or a 1-0 map lead to Ghost. Both qualifiers would have gone drastically differently if they closed those matches out and stayed in the winner's bracket.

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number1_ScreaM_fan

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They are still tier 3. they are playing in tourneys where teams like fortnite fragggers make playoffs

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deadSQUAD

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"TSM is back" against tier 4.

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number1_MIBR_hater

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Mickey Mouse org

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Top 5 na for sure better than 100L