T1, Faze, TSM | VLR.gg

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McSwishen

They need they're own bracket so we know who to relegate to T10

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well FaZe have no real IGL

T1 lost their IGL

and TSM have a new IGL everyday

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Fluffyy

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💀💀

#5

McSwishen

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I might suggest having all the IGL's 1v1 on Bind

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Delusional_Mitch_Fan

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thatll be a whole ass 5v5

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unknown_trash

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T1's coach is unavailable right now so that won't be possible unfortunately

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S0v4k

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Stop they're already dead 💀💀💀💀

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🗿🗿

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GENZAMAN1235

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Agreed

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LooseCiz

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All of them should start participating in tier 2 tourneys too boost confidence to see what is like to win

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m1kah

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to be completely honest with ya...they wouldn't win a t2 tourney

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Delusional_Mitch_Fan

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akrewstralis are just diff

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pengu31

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he meant winning a map not the entire tourney

#12

McSwishen

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LMAO

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m1kah

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shiiiit that was outta pocket

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Shteam

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this isn't an excuse but all teams mentioned there are not even a month old yet, give them time. hehe

T1 (started at 1/18/22)
Faze (1/28/22)
TSM (1/28/22)

up there are their first matches as a team.

#15

m1kah

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Listen. I’ll come back after challengers 2 quals are done then we’ll see okay?

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Shteam

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why are u saying this to me XD

#18

MastoOG

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TSM has been scrimming with each other since November lmao

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Shteam

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ok? what I mean is tournament. "lmao?"

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Abdul

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they need to stop scrimming and play in these nerdstreet quals
too many egos
the only map i thought was good was the ascent against COL

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onlyfax

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NA t1 is a disgrace.

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Shteam

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nah, they almost qualified before on the second VCT

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MilanTheMyth

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TI10 was last year

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PrinceCharming

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T1 and faze are pretty new rosters and need some time. Like they just formed and both showed some potential.

Tsm is fundamentally broken and needs drastic action (which might annoy Wardell and Subroza fans) and can't be fixed with added firepower or a new igl

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McSwishen

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Thats true, but you look at teams like LG, BBG, EG, and Gaurd who have completely new or mostly new rosters, and they are succeeding. And a lot of this is because of the reps they put in the last couple months in the nsg's. I feel like it would have been a completely different story if T1, Faze, and TSM took part in some kind of T2 tourneys before their VCT debut.

Edit: actually I think T1 did do a nsg run once recently.

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PrinceCharming

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Yeah the last couple monthes, at least for the faze roster I think it's timeline is probably still in weeks, you can see it in how they play. With half the team moving to different roles, I think the team just got put together to late for them to look good in vct qually