When does Sinatraa come back?

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His suspension is up and he's no longer under any kind of investigation.
I feel like pro val is at a lacking something without him, he's such an interesting player to watch

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no tier 1 team can get him atm stop with this https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1481041915990757381

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Next 1-2 years perhaps, or maybe never and he’ll just stick to streaming.

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https://youtu.be/v-0zOO5HLqU

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I dont miss t3 NA players, explain why you do

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not funny

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turkey

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8/8

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patuj

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Joke or not this could be true. Last time we saw Sinatraa in pro play was long time ago. He played in era where most players and teams were much weaker than what they are today. His strengths were his ability usage when no one else knew how to properly play agents like Sova.

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Sinatra is a team's worst PR nightmare, so I don't think anyone is willing to take that risk.

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phnxe

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why would he go pro when he's making the big bucks streaming

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Asphyxia

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^^
Even if he goes pro in tier 1, he would actually be gaining less money than if he was just streaming probably. We can see this from the SEN roster. Unless he just doesn't scrim KEKW.

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hopefully never

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Katharize

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Why

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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use your brain

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Noob_dart

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Well what he did was absurd but i dont think he should be punished like that i mean never letting him play valorant ever is so dumb

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If he's an alleged rapist then there is no reason for him to be allowed to play pro

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I acutally dont know whats the full case but law should handle that na if he is rapist and what do you mean by rape man wtf is a rape i been questioning this thing after my father once got accused of false rape case just because that women (tenant) didnt wanna give money to us, all rape means is sex without consent right ? But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina because they think that sex ia painful for women while its pleasurable for men. if it goes by the defination of sex without consent cant the same thing be said by men and it acutally becomes meaningless. Sorry just got carried away downvote me if you want but i really dont know wtf is rape

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shrado

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Don't comment on this situation if you don't know what rape is

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Noob_dart

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Idc about the downvotes i witnessed how onesided this shit really is and u wont think its absurd until you get in one and i meant a fake one

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rishu004

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omg dude. how old are you to not know the meaning of rape. sex without verbal consent is rape (in some cases even if there is verbal consent, its considered rape). grow the fuck up. what happened to your dad is very saddening but that does not mean there are no survivors in this world.

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"But the law has a defination of penetrating oral, anus, vagina" defination by wikipedia "Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent" i only said that the defination of law does not include male which is wrong because pain can be felt by both the genders and same amount of brain trauma if they are victim but if the law wouldve included male too and made it an neutral crime then both criminal and victim wouldve been considered victims and it would make rape meaning less. You guys just saw that i dont know meaning of rape and started comenting

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Pugaller

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the fuck are you talking about....

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jblancard

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ur the most braindead person ive ever seen. please delete ur account.

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Noob_dart

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True deleting my account bye

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Mqsh

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no1 said a man cant be raped
and how is the criminal victim if they're doing the rape

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don't get me wrong, I'm not a sinatraa fan, but I think y'all need to chill out when you're throwing around a word such as rapist. for all we know he is innocent. his gf dropped the case, didn't provide evidence, etc. etc., so unless something else happens, you should be assuming that he's innocent for now.

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he is so innocent he failed to comply with riot's investigation and got ban hammered

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tinted

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I don't know everything about the situation but I'm pretty sure he said he would provide info but ended up not having it (his gf had it instead). he got banned because he said he would provide evidence and didn't. I don't think that has much to do with him being guilty, but I may be wrong, so please correct me if so.

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He said he had evidence. Then said that cleo stole the evidence or smth. Then cleo said wtf u mean bro.
Also the not working with investigation is overall more stuff. I mean the evidence part was some of it though.

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tinted

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ok. thanks for the clarification, that makes a bit more sense.

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Asphyxia

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I mean we still don't know shit though, because it was just a mess of twitlongers lol.

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rishu004

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first of all his gf didnt withdraw the case. get your facts right.

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tinted

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technically? no, she didn't "drop" it. but she did stop pursuing it, which suggests that she doesn't have sufficient evidence to keep pursuing it (unless there's some other reason I'm unaware of).

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Asphyxia

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Death threats. I mean both sides got them. I feel like probably they had an agreement or sum shit probably at some point to just stop this. Even if it wasn't as many as cleo was saying. knowing sinatraa fans, it was probably still pretty bad.

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thats not how it works tho? like "alleged" literally means accused/said with no concrete proof, if he were to be a rapist i would agree but there are no conclusions in that way and theres no true evidence thats been provided. he wasn't right for not providing the full evidence as he said he would but theres also nothing to conclude that he IS a rapist?

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Raping a woman is worse than being "absurd", he can play Valorant on his stream all he wants to make tonnes of money and get all the attention in the world from his young brain dead Indian fanboys. But no team will want to associate with a rapist, and rightfully so.

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Wtf is rape is tell me na is it acutally meaningful if they both were partners tell me a proper defination that has something in it

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Noob_dart

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You can only talk motherfucker i saw how this shit is fucked up

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Noob_dart

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Why sex with a man without his consent is not considered a rape tell me why the fuck it isnt neutral

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Noob_dart

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Stupid fuck

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Double faced society

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Motherfuckers like you cant even care about life and cant make rape neutral always have a narrow vision of life, you should care about people not genders especially when we are on the only planet that has life

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tinted

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chill out dude, it's just vlr. the world isn't ending.

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phnxe

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wha.....

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And btw i dont give a shit about sinatra i never watched his stream i gave my opinion based on what happened on my father

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shrado

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Was he a rapist too?

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Noob_dart

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Fake rape case did u even read my comment

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shrado

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Women don't lie about stuff like this, it's a big deal.

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Noob_dart

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Lol how old are you you would only learn when this shit will happen to you i dont wanna waste my time on someone who is delusional

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shrado

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I am not a rapist and thus have nothing to fear

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Noob_dart

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Lol actual dumbfuck DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT? and give me a proper defination of rape and why rape is not neutral i shouldve just stop right here but then i remembered you didnt gave these answers tell me

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it is an extremely small percentage but it does happen - more cases go unreported though
however, there should be due process; there never should be "they said so it must be true" especially when its about something so severe

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shrado

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I was just baiting lol

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DrudaL

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never, sen will became streamer team

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andrewdamf

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"i totally have proof that he r'ped me!!!
*Doenst show up to the court"
Americans: ok fuck him lets destroy his career so he doenst go to any team and blindly support the girl because, woman. Right guys 🤪

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Arisqq

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u have no brain im so sorry for u

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andrewdamf

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Nice argument

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hope u get well soon 🙏

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u r actually brain dead. every human being has a different way to cope with trauma. its her wish how she decides to deal with it. there was literally voice recordings of sinaatra forcing himself on her when she repeadtedly said no. and have u seen their chats? sinatra is the most egomainiac control freak dudebro.

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I mean he wasn’t cooperating with the investigation anyways

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andrewdamf

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Riot investigation dumbass 💀 he cooperated with the cops but the one that IS the "victim" didnt

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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It's like you're trying to sound retarded on purpose lmao, she literally provided proof in her twitlonger you brainlet.

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andrewdamf

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Yeah guys such proof as? A 15 sec audio!!!!

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It's literally her saying no and him not stopping, that's rape. It could be a 3 second video and it would still be rape.

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Marty

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bro hes a loud fan. The Brazilians already told us theyre 12 year old tiktok kids.

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andrewdamf

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Im not a loud fan aspas is just at the team so im gonna want them to win

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kwe

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Nice catch never trust a loud fan

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andrewdamf

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Then why hes not in jail? Actually braindead 😭

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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You're clearly 11 and have no clue how court works, I'm just gonna stop responding this is like talking to a brick wall.

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andrewdamf

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Then how it works? U have all the time to respond brother but if you cant just see the truth just dont say nonsense shit 👍

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because rape victims almost never get justice unless they have clear cut proof, plus even if he was proven 100% he probably still wouldn't be in jail by now because court takes a long ass time

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vlr logic man, twitlonger, twitter is always right thats proof( i dont like sen or sinatraa cuz of rivalry, but without concerete proof its sickening to call some1 a rapist)

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i mean sinatraa never disputed any of the claims and just said he will prove he is innocent (publicly) and failed to comply with riot's investigation

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Sinatraa is innocent.

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do u really think the court would decide off a clip which isnt even a minute long? this isnt a movie LOL

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BadlandsChugs

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that's assuming she doesn't have more, which she might, and realistically would if she thinks she has a chance in a court of law

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well clearly she didnt think she had a chance....considering shes the one who didnt further pursue the case

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the case is still ongoing

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weeky sinatraa thread zzzzzz

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shrado

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Never thankfully

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coguyy

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kekw streamer in pro play 🤔🤔

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trola

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never, streaming money is bigger

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justboy

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Brimstone Gaming with tarik, prod, billions, emil

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shrado

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Why is it always third worlders who defend Sinatraa? 🤔
Really makes me think

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https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/delhi-high-court-expresses-worry-over-alarming-increase-of-false-rape-cases/article36042093.ece

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Asphyxia

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Honestly fair point. In MURICA though, rape cases are more often underreported.

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https://www.livemint.com/Politics/AV3sIKoEBAGZozALMX8THK/99-cases-of-sexual-assaults-go-unreported-govt-data-shows.html

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Wow wtf

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Aartanis

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https://twitter.com/DashySZN/status/1468035094803791873?s=20 what was this about?

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never mitch best

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agreed

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idk

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god every time someone mentions his name this website turns in to legal team andys who either are the biggest sinatraa haters or the biggest sinatraa dick munchers
none of you know anything about what happened and none of you actually care please stop

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actually true, I'ma leave this thread.

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lmfao true
during lans the average vlr pleb comes off as an armchair analyst
when any sinatraa thread comes up they turn into lawyers

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nobody knows