Without any bias, someone has to explain to me why everyone is taking a fat piss on Brazil again, it definetly means something bad must have happened for everyone to go at war over what i think is an illegal camera put by a cypher, Brazilians insist that Riot helped Acend get the win, but the majority of everyone else in the world says that the cam was illegal anyways, someone without bias explain. I need to know what went down
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reason for what exactly?
I think I express myself the wrong way, but I don't think I implied in my message that all the shit aimed at Acend that some stupid childish people are doing is justifiable
Riot handled all of this in a very questionable way, and that's my point, and again, I don't answer for the actions of some people
I believe there is indeed riot's fault, as far as we know this exploit is already old and there has been no bug fix until today
our players did not receive a rulebook that said this camera was not allowed.
and if it wasn't allowed, why didn't you stop the match as you did with the match between SEN X Furia when the camera was used?
the way she handled it in my vision is a problem.
As aotdstix said,
any utility that cant be seen by the enemy is illegal. that includes utility such as killjoy mollies stuck between walls and hidden cypher cams. vk used a cypher cam where vk can see acend players before acend players see the cam. thats illegal by the rulebook
X10C (SEA) and Giants (EMEA) were immediately forced to forfeit the whole map when Riot found out they exploited the bug. If anything, VK received special treatments, since they were able to replay that map.
And I agreed that Riot didn't handle this the most perfect way. VK should've been disqualified, as were X10C and Giants.
Vivo Keyd used an ILLEGAL Cypher camera exploit against ACEND map 3 Breeze, which VK initially won 13-8.
Riot had observed and investigated the map, and decided to give a replay on map 3. The problem with that was that Riot decided to give ACEND a 7-0 start, where the community got mad about because that's a straight handicap for Vivo Keyd, whereas some thought it was a fair ruling.
And then the replay happened, which ACEND won 13-10, and the Brazilians got super upset at the result, and started going off at Riot and ACEND.
yes. Acend even didnt know thats cam is not allowed. Cause as u know riot always fixing some Exploits right?
its not BR Fault when they found new place for the cypher cam.
every Pros always do more custom to get a new better angle /lineup to use.
so its all riot fault they make the Map not perfect. so pros can place on there.
and i think riot punishment for BR is totally Wrong.
better should 0-0
rematch
Vk used an illegal camera (there is no discussion on that, Giants and X10 had been already punished with losing the entire map for the same cam in other tournaments). What the Brazilians complain about is why Riot didn't stop the game and replayed the round or take just that round, because the problem comes when Riot did stop the Furia vs Sen game because of a supposed bug from Furia(that wasn't a bug) while they were coming back, cutting their momentum.
Riot decided to take the entire map away from VK, and I can see how that looks like Riot going against Brazil, and precisely because of that and all the Brazilian community complaining and threatening they allowed a rematch starting 7-0 for Acend (the number of rounds VK used the illegal camera), Acend won that game 13-10. Some Brazilians weren't happy with this either
To me it was Riot's mistake for either not stopping the VK game in time or stopping the Furia one, one of the two shouldn't have happened, but once done they shouldn't have changed the decision because of the Brazilian threats. Once all fucked up, the rematch they did was the right solution imo
The problem is 7-0 Rematch lol. Not even 3-0.
The problem is.. If they wanted rematch why not rematch completely?
7-0 was because 3-3 + 1 (economy) but why +1 in a rematch?
Also people was tilted af because SEN techpause (Riot pause for a SIMPLE JUMP)
Riot paused this game because a simple jett jump for 20 minutes, but a camera BUG they didn't even stopped.
That's why people got mad af here
Also VK wanted to rematch 0x0 why ACEND denied and wanted to accept Riot decision (7-0 for them)
Nobody would cheat in a worlds at live + this cam had punished many teams before, so I'm sure nobody would use it in a common sense.
Jhow don't speak English + don't follow world news
That what happened + he don't even play Cypher in Breeze normally, so he just did "ranked things" without knowing it.
whos fault is that then. this is worlds, the final end of the year event. vk needed to cover their bases before this happened. the cam is clearly illegal punished by a map ff. this is an undoing of vk more than it is of jhow, they were scrimming with this and no one on vk thought of even checking it. vk brought that on themselves, atleast do your due diligence. only if that cam didnt happen the championship would look very different.
- Being called a shit region... ofc adding all these things would develop an anger of BR people.
They got fucked by Riot(tech pause), By ACEND being submissive just accepting Riot decision even being Unfair + Called being a shit region.
I'm sure if any other region received all these decisions would say nice things to the others (ironic)
Don't worry your English is totally fine. And yes, there isn't a rule saying that that specific camera is illegal, it would be impossible to mark all the illegal ones but what the rulebook said was "It's forbidden to use any camera that sees through the textures of the map" which is what the issue with that camera was, so yes it was on the rulebook
Yeah but the one using doesn't how that they're seeing through textures. :(
Riot could pause tho.
Adding all what happened before developed a big rage from BR people (I'm just explaning how BR think about this issue, I don't even care about it myself)
But like I said, we all should fight against unfair decision because in the future it can happen with us.
No, you can't just cheat and play a rematch just like if nothing happened, you need some sort of punishment, otherwise, people would just cheat hoping they don't catch them knowing the worst case scenario is a rematch
And no that's a lie, Acend didn't have any type of power in that decision, Acend didn't even complain about the camera, because if they had complained they would have actually stopped the game. Acend has absolutely nothing to do with the decision
So, they should tell riot to do like, 3-0 or 6-0, but they was only willing to accept 7-0 even +1 being unfair that's the reason why people got mad guys.
Accepting an unfair decision is really shit thing to do + BR people are already tilted by SEN tech pause (Riot tech pause) + being called Shit region.
Just see how many 12-5 to 12-12 we got in this champions.
What you are not understanding is that Acend doesn't make the rules, Riot does.
Let's use a football example so you understand the situation: Imagine the referee says that the other team faulted you and now you have to shoot a penalty. You consider that he didn't hit you hard enough to be a penalty, but the VAR has checked it for a while and says that indeed it is a penalty. What do you do? Do you go and tell the referee it's not a penalty?
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