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Denjisideals

Ykw, I expected way worse than this considering that they played Heretics who at their worst are still a pretty good side. But for my sanity and everyone else's sanity, please don't play solo Waylay if your name ain't Jawgemo and if you don't play for Gamers2. That is not viable, we have seen it again and again. Use Jett or Yoru even. Or don't use duelists as all, just stop trying to use something that almost never works out.

Avova is actually so back, Batu on sentinel looks astronomically better than whatever they were trying in kickoff, Governor was so good for the first map and then proceeded to fall asleep... Ofcourse he did. Molsi was doing great. They need to utilise the Deadlock more, the things they did on map 1 with it was genuinely so good. I expected them to use it on Split. Flor had a pretty quiet series. But tbf, she was on the Yoru. But I will say it regardless because that Waylay was awful.

Overall, might sneak into fourth position playoffs (very grim still looking at their group) if NAVI and GX underperform and if they stay away from Waylay.

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Lito

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Thanks for the recap i wanted to follow but couldn't

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Denjisideals

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I mean it would be better if they just banned Icebox since as far as I remember, Heretics have been pretty good on it. They actually looked like they were competing upto map 2 but map 3 was horrible like absolutely disgusting stuff.

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I agree, they genuinely looked good, at least for the first two maps. Their Ascent was really good macro and micro wise and I think Governor brings them a lot (at least on Sova). I still hate waylay, but it's nothing specific to Flor or the way they play it, the agent is just useless 90% of the time

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Denjisideals

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I also think map 3 was just a troll draft. Like the Yoru on that map is actually very viable. Or if you don't want that, Jett is also an option. If you hate Jett, go for the Neon if you hate that too, go for the no duelist (although I doubt they could pull it off). Anything but solo Waylay.

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MrBlooBloom

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Yoru is ass on icebox but yeah, Waylay is really bad and it forces you to run breach, which is also awful on icebox. They should have put Flor on her comfort pick

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kingop3n

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i dont get why they didnt just go for jett? i guess trying new things but jett just seems better in 90% of cases

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Denjisideals

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No I meant like if they want to stick to the Yoru stuff then. But regardless, there's like 3 alternatives, anything but that agent. There could be a way to use that agent, but no one other than JoshRT knows how yet.

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SeniorGoblin

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they don't have defense on icebox and split. flor go kill ideas won't work if flor can't kill. i didn't see any other ideas. replacing governor with someone stronger is a good option. especially since there are candidates. basically it looks like a temporary solution

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Congo1

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avova and molsi were lions today. i wonder if heretics just picked Apeks best map. Maybe they fall apart with other vetos.

But considering expectation it was a big win for them regardless. Expectations have been raised.

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i was expecting an 0-2 i’m surprised they actually got a map lol

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unofficialwaifu

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their icebox was ass

just run jett, kayo and sova. they all comfort picks for flor, molsi and governor

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Denjisideals

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The Icebox was so polar opposite to what we saw on Ascent and Split. They just ran out of steam.

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H3ENnZ

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i guess the same thing could be said about EDGs waylay, just play jett lol

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Denjisideals

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You have to go either comfort picks or meta picks. You can't pick both struggles at once and pick an off meta agent your duelist isn't even comfortable on 😭