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Riot please

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#1
cloudberry

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Buff Harbor please I'm begging you... when the controller player is botfragging in a 5 controller team comp and is more than double negative when everyone else has 20+ kills you KNOW its a problem with the agent... I want Harbor to be a good agent so badly :(

#2
TeoEmil
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Counterpoint

Harbor is a good character

#3
cloudberry
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I wish, man, I really do :(
But the fact is that he's the worst performing agent in pretty much every metric, and it's consistent at all levels of play

#6
AZDZ
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som just fried on harbor. nerfs incoming buddy.

#7
Altamira
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at the highest level of play i feel like harbor is underrated, but fragging as harbor is really hard since you have no utility to help yourself get kills. you cant even peek through your walls.

#8
Altamira
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walling also takes a long time (compared to viper walls) so ur just holding utility a lot of the time so youre not really getting active

#5
composthe
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good character in what aspect?

his abilities
smoke
smoke
smoke
ok ult

#4
tserc
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bump

#9
jawn
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the fact that you cannot tell exactly where harbor is everytime he uses an ability is fucked

#10
LycheeBlade
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Harbor's in a tough spot because if you buff him he'll just become a staple in double wall meta which everyone collectively thought was boring and annoying. But none of his abilities function that well as solo smokes. I thought Abyss would be an okay solo smokes map for him but I ended up just playing Astra again (biased because Astra's been my main since 2022).

I fully see (maybe even expect) a potential rework to remove his waterfall ability and replace it with some different thing. Maybe something like a stim beacon/damage amp. A flash wouldn't make sense and neither would a molly, and the stim beacon effect is only seen in two characters (brim and reyna empress giving the faster firing and reload). We also already have enough "space-creating" offensive walls (pheonix, neon, iso)

Harbor just needs something that makes him even appetizing to play as solo smokes and when all of your abilities are smoke abilities you feel kinda useless. That's why I think the waterfall is the most expendable. The orb is a good concept and the wall is fine even if it's just so Viper isn't the only one.

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