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overweightcat34

These guys must have top tier nepotism, blackmail on owners, or are playing and coaching for minimum wage. If it's the latter then I truly respect the grind.

I cannot understand any other justification for these roster moves. The roster should have been:

Duelist: Oxy
Initiator/Flex: Rossy
Flex/IGL: Mitch
Smokes: V1C
Sentinel: Most likely Moose, could try others

Pick up an Americas Tier 2 coach; The top 3 coaches all got Tier 1 jobs (Faded, Happy, Bonkar). There is no excuse for Immi to not have a reliable system built around Oxy at this point. It's been over 2 years of Immi developing Oxy. If this duo can't achieve results this year it's time for something new.

Not even trying to hate, Immi seems fine in the few content pieces I've seen him in and Xeppaa is one of the few pros with personality and an entertaining stream. Go collect the watch party check king. You've got my prime if Rossy comes back.

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idkmanwth

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c9 more like c4 for pro careers

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midzera

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In C9's tweet, they said that it was just that the team did not mesh well with Rossy's IGLing and they wanna play how they wanna play. It's clear that C9 Valorant is on the line of: "Win or lose, we just wanna play our way." Even though with Rossy, the burden of carrying was taken off of OXY. But I guess that could have been part of the problem since OXY's numbers looked kinda weak in some games and maps despite him being C9's superstar. You can't have your superstar dropping negatives on a regular.

Even though nothing of this situation will change, I agree that the current roster would work best with OXY, Rossy, Mitch, V1c and Moose. And even then, you could always replace Moose with someone else who can play the sentinel role better.

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overweightcat34

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That tweet from C9 is the biggest cope I've ever read. Ok sure you don't like the IGLing that got you to top 2... even then keep the best player of the tournament. Idk who wrote that tweet but I can guarantee they are lying or braindead.

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midzera

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It's definitely a big HR-style kind of statement to save face from C9. Rossy seems to have accepted this decision, but I feel that it's rather harsh given this was his plan. Go back to NA and IGL. There's now basically no team that would need him at this point unless EG suddenly feel Nature isn't gonna be their IGL for the season. This is a random detail I wanna bring up, but it felt like every time I watched Rossy play, there was some kind of tech pause. It's a funny coincidence and probably nothing behind it, but it just seemed so odd that every time he'd play, there is some kind of tech pause.

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overweightcat34

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That's just the APAC league for you

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sentinel shouldn't be moose, so many tier 2 options such as xxif, thief, add3r, net, aproto, etc
but otherwise i like your logic

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midzera

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Aproto is great, but he unfortunately has some health issues holding him back from committing to pro play for a bit. Thief definitely looked good with how he clutched and bailed YFP during so many rounds on Ascent against Rankers. Net can be good, but he is also heavily inconsistent and can put up some of the worst numbers. Same goes for Apoth. Aleksandr is a great aimer, but he is lacking a lot of that game sense which more successful sentinels with less aim possess.

As for moose, I heavily favoured him in 2022/23. He seemed promising and he has great impact during rounds even if his numbers aren't the most stacked. I feel like C9 under the surface is looking to be more of a clout team. They will probably pursue trophies, but I can't see it being all too successful since OXY has a tendency to overheat especially if his team cannot support him well enough in a round.