Sen x Furia bug exploit

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Genuine question: Since when was the jump on the C box blacklisted by Riot? We'll never know if that pause changed or not the outcome of the match, but this looks pretty bad. https://youtu.be/5nU0XGTMSB0

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Xand said that he got a penalty for that, where are those other player's penalties?

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é patético, quando nois aprende a joga valorant a rito quer foder nois

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It's pathethic, when Minors learn How to play Valorant using everything that other regions have been using for months we are punished for It. Everyone used this jump bug, magically It becamed a problem during our game most important moment.

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Riot cannot ban an exploit in the middle of a tournament so maybe it was blacklisted after berlin. We don't have the list of banned exploit like the players do , the only way to know if riot did it on purpose is to get the list. Innocent until proven otherwise.

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Where? What list? Anyone know???

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Players attending those events get a list of all exploits not to do such as cypher cams, sage walls, sova lineups(jonas showed some which are bannable like arrows that go through walls) kj turret boosting or teammates boosting you. You are not allowed to use those and you may get a penalty like xand did if you use those exploits.

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that is what I thought, but there is a BIG problem with that assessment. It also happened during the vks vs cr match, there is a clip for it in the video. My best guess is that riot did not notice it happening during that match, but it is kind of strange and seems a bit unlikely

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There's a lot of people from Riot watching the game though, I don't think they would've missed it.

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Yeah, it is kinda sus if you think about it. But I'm not really buying into the riot tries to protect NA story. For me, this is a big misunderstanding between Riot and the players

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I don't think that's the case too, but they need to explain themselves. That's a must.

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What? NOW? This exists since the beginning of the game! If they didn't want it to be used, then fix it or blacklist it since the start of the year. Several other teams used it in tournaments before, but they banned it now?

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lots of exploits exists since the beginning of the game, doesn't mean they are allowed. You can't fix it unless you make the box taller which will then prevent you from updrafting on it. It's champs the final main event the rest were just qualifiers where they got to see what needed to be changed, just like they nerfed jett after iceland and added the unbreakable box on icebox b site after berlin. Just so you get a more balanced and competitive game for champs.

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Right NOW? IN MOMENTUM TIME? Most important moment for SA comunity until then? 20 min for saying, "oh! You can't do that, that IS ilegal" and then doesn't Restart the round, Just keep It like that.

Riot Super sus

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They don't care whether you are on a win streak or not , using an exploit will result in a tech pause. In any case, whether you keep playing or restart it doesn't matter it still breaks their momentum. The SEN players also said they didn't care and wanted to keep playing (https://twitter.com/ShahZaMk/status/1466520153336786945?s=20).

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Like I said, this exists forever. If they DON'T want to be used, FIX IT. It's a weird decision to do it NOW and not before. Actually, a REALLY BAD decision.

There was a exploit for KJ's ult in Ascent that existed earlier this year, they blacklisted it IMMEDIATELY after it was discouvered and then fixed it right away. Why not do that with this jump as well?? It was even used by derke in SEN x FNC finals in Iceland.

THAT is the point my friend.

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You can't fix it unless you make the box taller which will then prevent you from updrafting on it (unless you go on logs)

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Then do it ??? Or remove the top most part of logs ??? There's a lot that could have been done there if they wanted to fix it. Not necessarily making the box taller

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you cannot remove logs since it is a really good spot for defense as it is an extra angle to clear and having different elevations on a site is always good. You can't add a wall because retake is gonna be really hard. You can make the box smaller as then all agents can get on it, so low risk-high reward on retake or post plant. You can try to move the box away from logs but then you get a smaller safe spot to plant the spike.

You see how hard it is to fix problems like those, now imagine having hundreds of those . Riot is fixing stuff like that every day, shootout to them for doing so and giving us such a good game.

It sucks that this happened and hopefully they work on this so it doesn't happen in the future. Still tho, it's just 1 game, Furia is really good and has a lot of potential, who knows they might come back even stronger and win the whole thing.