who is better?

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kalayav_n

R: 1.07
ACS: 203.4
KD: 1.09
KAST: 75%
FKPR: 0.10
FDPR: 0.09
bang(viper, omen, astra(could probably as though cryocells does play that ahead of him)

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R: 1.10
ACS: 212.2
KD: 1.09
KAST: 76%
FKPR: 0.10
FDPR: 0.09
tenz(omen)

sen fans if you don't see this as a slight upgrade to your team, just get off of tiktok; bang is bette for sen than tenz was.

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dort

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bang just clears in every aspect but sen fans deny it for some reason

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kalayav_n

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just wait til they see they how much sacy actually meant to the team when theyre shit ini cant setup the duelist

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ParisVLR

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Narrate ain’t too bad. (Easily better then Com)

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kalayav_n

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is the air that polluted in downtown michigan

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catNmouse

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val analist agrees with you

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kalayav_n

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dang tuff

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catNmouse

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bang can play brim and astra well it’s just that cryos agent pool is relatively limited

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kalayav_n

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mhm, but people will tell you that because tenz can multifrag hes clearly the better controller,

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kanyefan4238173

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Tenz better, both players very mistake prone tho

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kalayav_n

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you see risk taking as mistake prone which is false,

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kanyefan4238173

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Bang is actually stupid

Insane aim tho

#9

kalayav_n

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is ange1 stupid? one of the best risk takers in VAL and the imo top 3 best IGL's of all time

#10

kanyefan4238173

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Well stupid is harsh I guess but ykwim

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kalayav_n

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i dont but i think risk takers is a better base for valorant players than more passive players, subconsciously always wanting to stay back and preserve your life and etc is kind of downplaying, like for ange1 he isn't thinking about "OH I GOTTA LIVE DUDE OR WE LOST THE GAME AND THE ROUND", hes thinking "ok let me take this risk which is going to win me the game"

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nobody___100

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top 3 best igls of all time is a bit of a stretch
fns saadhak boaster clear
maybe top 4 tho!

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kalayav_n

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ange1 was robbed of 2 masters btw, i would say hes better than fns and way better than boaster no doubt idk what your smoking.

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nobody___100

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robbed of one masters is called a stretch, robbed of two masters is called cocaine breakfast
fns performed for 2 consistent years with three top 2 placements and five top 4 placements
ange1 pulled up for 1 (maybe 2) top 2 placements and 2 (maybe 3) top 4 placements
as for boaster, he has two titles and a runners-up as well as a shit ton of regional titles
2024 boaster clears, 2023 both boaster and fns clear, same with 2021
overall only in 2022 was ange1 good

#41

kalayav_n

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acting like his team wasnt prohibited to play in the one tournament where everyone knew they were clear favorites

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catNmouse

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i mean you say that but then realize optic and loud were the same exact finalists in champs and FPX fell short losing to drx unable to make it to top 3. optic in general struggled against emea teams but they were against THE loud so i don’t think their win should be diminished as much as people like to say so

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kalayav_n

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not diminishing optic at all im saying ange1 was clearly robbed of a masters, hes so underrated and overhated because he doesnt stream and his name isnt FNS

continue thread →

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WhoseTao

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youre the type of mf to compare Suarez and Lewandowski and think its fine just because they are both strikers lmfao

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kalayav_n

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lewandowski can't even fathom to or dream to be half the player suarez was and both are poachers/strikers so your even more dumb to make this comparison

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kanyefan4238173

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Lewandowski is so much better, Suarez overrated for playing in prem

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kalayav_n

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silly me you almost got me, i really thought you were bulkylettuce but realized no one could be that stupid so ofc its a joke, good bait sir

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WhoseTao

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Suarez is so much more than a poacher your troglodyte this is what I meant, sure they play the same position, but the way they play is much more different, what they provide past just basic goals is also different, the way the team played around them, and the team with them is completely different

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kalayav_n

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? lewandoswksi and suarez are well known poachers, the reasonn you think suarez isn't a pure poacher is because of his ability to actually play as a false 9 and link up play unlike lewandoswksi who you have to find straight and direct, this doesnt take away from the fact suraez is a literal poacher..

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kanyefan4238173

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I’ll compare them

Lewa better

#29

kalayav_n

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where is lewas ucl, goldenboot ahead of prime messi and ronaldo, where is lewas fucking handball vs ghana?

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kanyefan4238173

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Where are suarez goals and healthy right knee

#39

kalayav_n

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atleast my idol never did tiktok dances

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BulkyLettuce

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thank you for proving tenz is better lmao

#17

michaelisupset

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tenz is a better player, bang is a better controller. gg fun comparison

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kalayav_n

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would say they are on the same level and yes bang is a better controller.

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BulkyLettuce

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tenz doesnt even play controller, he plays flex

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michaelisupset

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he plays omen on all but like 3 maps, he’s basically a controller

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BulkyLettuce

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this is because zellsis isnt comfortable on omen and omen is used for almost every map. Tenz fills

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kalayav_n

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no hes not a flex... hes a omen who happens to play kayo because of role issues on icebox,

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where are you getting these stats from

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kalayav_n

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pessi fan looking for stats 😭 , all jokes aside its in the stats tab for this years VCT americas performances

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messithegoat

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bang had 1.07 on viper and omen only
tenz had 1.10 on omen gekko kayo and +1 agent
tenz had the overall 4th highest assist per around across all regions (only 0.01 below stax, s1mon and invy) and the highest in americas
bang is NOT an upgrade

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kalayav_n

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i understand, i literally posted his stats which are better than bangs but the conversation is controller; and bang is better than tenz at controller and is a upgrade for sen, i dont get how SEN fans are trying to bash their own player before they even arrive; shades of sacy bro

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messithegoat

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we never know until we see them play, the way tenz played his omen perfectly fit sentinels so we'll see how bangs playstyle fits them

#36

kalayav_n

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on omen maps for sure bro i still remember his terrifying ace vs heretics madrid but wouldve loved to see what their other maps wouldve looked like with an actual other agent other than omen

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BulkyLettuce

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i wonder why he left out APR (assists per round), i guess he wanted the stats to seem closer than they actually were

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BulkyLettuce

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hes just guessing

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shrike-

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it really doesn’t matter who the better controller is, tenz was the better player in 2024 and that really isn’t debatable

awesome that sen is about to get an actual controller but to say that it’s an upgrade is cap, especially when the meta controller is still omen and tenz > bang on omen pretty much all year

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kalayav_n

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awesome that sen is about to get an actual controller but to say that it’s an upgrade is cap

do you read before you type or do contradictions get you horny?

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shrike-

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???

omen was the meta controller all year and it will likely stay that way next year given the map pool. tenz was a better omen. it doesn’t matter that bang can play astra or viper, astra is hardly being used and johnqt is already their viper (he was about the same level as bang on viper too)

it is not a upgrade. it is a sidegrade at best

#44

SomeoneLikeU

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TenZ literally is better or the same in every aspect. It’s not an upgrade if it’s worse.

#50

ValAnalist1

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The guy thinks it's a math game. Do you prefer
1+1+1+1+1
or
0+2+1+0+2
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#51

kalayav_n

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im glad twitter is banned for you bums, go to apac please and go with your dickriding partner

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ValAnalist1

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This isn't pokemon for you to compare stats vs stats.
And btw, no more wins for your team.

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kalayav_n

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noooooooo NO MA WEINS FA ME TEAM? :(

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TenZ best Omen in the world but Bang definitely better controller and better fit for a team. SEN needs a great controller like Bang.

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kalayav_n

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we went from tenz being a very good omen to tenz being top 10 controllers to tenz now being the best omen, what is next? tenz is the best cypher?

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ShuGo

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one has gotten to 2 Grand Finals and also won them both while playing Controller for 2024, the other one hasn't done shit while playing Controller for all his life.

I can clearly identify which is a bum

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forgot jett in 2021 had 3 smokes and was a controller