R: 1.07
ACS: 203.4
KD: 1.09
KAST: 75%
FKPR: 0.10
FDPR: 0.09
bang(viper, omen, astra(could probably as though cryocells does play that ahead of him)
VS
R: 1.10
ACS: 212.2
KD: 1.09
KAST: 76%
FKPR: 0.10
FDPR: 0.09
tenz(omen)
sen fans if you don't see this as a slight upgrade to your team, just get off of tiktok; bang is bette for sen than tenz was.
catNmouse [#3]bang can play brim and astra well it’s just that cryos agent pool is relatively limited
mhm, but people will tell you that because tenz can multifrag hes clearly the better controller,
kanyefan4238173 [#6]Tenz better, both players very mistake prone tho
you see risk taking as mistake prone which is false,
kalayav_n [#7]you see risk taking as mistake prone which is false,
Bang is actually stupid
Insane aim tho
kanyefan4238173 [#8]Bang is actually stupid
Insane aim tho
is ange1 stupid? one of the best risk takers in VAL and the imo top 3 best IGL's of all time
kalayav_n [#9]is ange1 stupid? one of the best risk takers in VAL and the imo top 3 best IGL's of all time
Well stupid is harsh I guess but ykwim
kalayav_n [#9]is ange1 stupid? one of the best risk takers in VAL and the imo top 3 best IGL's of all time
top 3 best igls of all time is a bit of a stretch
fns saadhak boaster clear
maybe top 4 tho!
kanyefan4238173 [#10]Well stupid is harsh I guess but ykwim
i dont but i think risk takers is a better base for valorant players than more passive players, subconsciously always wanting to stay back and preserve your life and etc is kind of downplaying, like for ange1 he isn't thinking about "OH I GOTTA LIVE DUDE OR WE LOST THE GAME AND THE ROUND", hes thinking "ok let me take this risk which is going to win me the game"
nobody___100 [#11]top 3 best igls of all time is a bit of a stretch
fns saadhak boaster clear
maybe top 4 tho!
ange1 was robbed of 2 masters btw, i would say hes better than fns and way better than boaster no doubt idk what your smoking.
WhoseTao [#12]youre the type of mf to compare Suarez and Lewandowski and think its fine just because they are both strikers lmfao
lewandowski can't even fathom to or dream to be half the player suarez was and both are poachers/strikers so your even more dumb to make this comparison
michaelisupset [#17]tenz is a better player, bang is a better controller. gg fun comparison
would say they are on the same level and yes bang is a better controller.
michaelisupset [#17]tenz is a better player, bang is a better controller. gg fun comparison
tenz doesnt even play controller, he plays flex
messithegoat [#19]where are you getting these stats from
pessi fan looking for stats 😭 , all jokes aside its in the stats tab for this years VCT americas performances
kalayav_n [#16]lewandowski can't even fathom to or dream to be half the player suarez was and both are poachers/strikers so your even more dumb to make this comparison
Lewandowski is so much better, Suarez overrated for playing in prem
BulkyLettuce [#20]tenz doesnt even play controller, he plays flex
he plays omen on all but like 3 maps, he’s basically a controller
BulkyLettuce [#20]tenz doesnt even play controller, he plays flex
no hes not a flex... hes a omen who happens to play kayo because of role issues on icebox,
WhoseTao [#12]youre the type of mf to compare Suarez and Lewandowski and think its fine just because they are both strikers lmfao
I’ll compare them
Lewa better
michaelisupset [#23]he plays omen on all but like 3 maps, he’s basically a controller
this is because zellsis isnt comfortable on omen and omen is used for almost every map. Tenz fills
kanyefan4238173 [#22]Lewandowski is so much better, Suarez overrated for playing in prem
silly me you almost got me, i really thought you were bulkylettuce but realized no one could be that stupid so ofc its a joke, good bait sir
kanyefan4238173 [#26]I’ll compare them
Lewa better
where is lewas ucl, goldenboot ahead of prime messi and ronaldo, where is lewas fucking handball vs ghana?
it really doesn’t matter who the better controller is, tenz was the better player in 2024 and that really isn’t debatable
awesome that sen is about to get an actual controller but to say that it’s an upgrade is cap, especially when the meta controller is still omen and tenz > bang on omen pretty much all year
kalayav_n [#21]pessi fan looking for stats 😭 , all jokes aside its in the stats tab for this years VCT americas performances
bang had 1.07 on viper and omen only
tenz had 1.10 on omen gekko kayo and +1 agent
tenz had the overall 4th highest assist per around across all regions (only 0.01 below stax, s1mon and invy) and the highest in americas
bang is NOT an upgrade
shrike- [#30]it really doesn’t matter who the better controller is, tenz was the better player in 2024 and that really isn’t debatable
awesome that sen is about to get an actual controller but to say that it’s an upgrade is cap, especially when the meta controller is still omen and tenz > bang on omen pretty much all year
awesome that sen is about to get an actual controller but to say that it’s an upgrade is cap
do you read before you type or do contradictions get you horny?
kalayav_n [#32]awesome that sen is about to get an actual controller but to say that it’s an upgrade is cap
do you read before you type or do contradictions get you horny?
???
omen was the meta controller all year and it will likely stay that way next year given the map pool. tenz was a better omen. it doesn’t matter that bang can play astra or viper, astra is hardly being used and johnqt is already their viper (he was about the same level as bang on viper too)
it is not a upgrade. it is a sidegrade at best
messithegoat [#31]bang had 1.07 on viper and omen only
tenz had 1.10 on omen gekko kayo and +1 agent
tenz had the overall 4th highest assist per around across all regions (only 0.01 below stax, s1mon and invy) and the highest in americas
bang is NOT an upgrade
i understand, i literally posted his stats which are better than bangs but the conversation is controller; and bang is better than tenz at controller and is a upgrade for sen, i dont get how SEN fans are trying to bash their own player before they even arrive; shades of sacy bro
kalayav_n [#34]i understand, i literally posted his stats which are better than bangs but the conversation is controller; and bang is better than tenz at controller and is a upgrade for sen, i dont get how SEN fans are trying to bash their own player before they even arrive; shades of sacy bro
we never know until we see them play, the way tenz played his omen perfectly fit sentinels so we'll see how bangs playstyle fits them
messithegoat [#35]we never know until we see them play, the way tenz played his omen perfectly fit sentinels so we'll see how bangs playstyle fits them
on omen maps for sure bro i still remember his terrifying ace vs heretics madrid but wouldve loved to see what their other maps wouldve looked like with an actual other agent other than omen
kalayav_n [#29]where is lewas ucl, goldenboot ahead of prime messi and ronaldo, where is lewas fucking handball vs ghana?
Where are suarez goals and healthy right knee
messithegoat [#31]bang had 1.07 on viper and omen only
tenz had 1.10 on omen gekko kayo and +1 agent
tenz had the overall 4th highest assist per around across all regions (only 0.01 below stax, s1mon and invy) and the highest in americas
bang is NOT an upgrade
i wonder why he left out APR (assists per round), i guess he wanted the stats to seem closer than they actually were
kanyefan4238173 [#37]Where are suarez goals and healthy right knee
atleast my idol never did tiktok dances
kalayav_n [#15]ange1 was robbed of 2 masters btw, i would say hes better than fns and way better than boaster no doubt idk what your smoking.
robbed of one masters is called a stretch, robbed of two masters is called cocaine breakfast
fns performed for 2 consistent years with three top 2 placements and five top 4 placements
ange1 pulled up for 1 (maybe 2) top 2 placements and 2 (maybe 3) top 4 placements
as for boaster, he has two titles and a runners-up as well as a shit ton of regional titles
2024 boaster clears, 2023 both boaster and fns clear, same with 2021
overall only in 2022 was ange1 good
nobody___100 [#40]robbed of one masters is called a stretch, robbed of two masters is called cocaine breakfast
fns performed for 2 consistent years with three top 2 placements and five top 4 placements
ange1 pulled up for 1 (maybe 2) top 2 placements and 2 (maybe 3) top 4 placements
as for boaster, he has two titles and a runners-up as well as a shit ton of regional titles
2024 boaster clears, 2023 both boaster and fns clear, same with 2021
overall only in 2022 was ange1 good
acting like his team wasnt prohibited to play in the one tournament where everyone knew they were clear favorites
kalayav_n [#41]acting like his team wasnt prohibited to play in the one tournament where everyone knew they were clear favorites
i mean you say that but then realize optic and loud were the same exact finalists in champs and FPX fell short losing to drx unable to make it to top 3. optic in general struggled against emea teams but they were against THE loud so i don’t think their win should be diminished as much as people like to say so
catNmouse [#42]i mean you say that but then realize optic and loud were the same exact finalists in champs and FPX fell short losing to drx unable to make it to top 3. optic in general struggled against emea teams but they were against THE loud so i don’t think their win should be diminished as much as people like to say so
not diminishing optic at all im saying ange1 was clearly robbed of a masters, hes so underrated and overhated because he doesnt stream and his name isnt FNS
kalayav_n [#43]not diminishing optic at all im saying ange1 was clearly robbed of a masters, hes so underrated and overhated because he doesnt stream and his name isnt FNS
i agree, ngl i actually felt sad when they got eliminated by loud in champs bc they played so well and it was really unfortunate shao underperformed because i think they would’ve beat loud 100% if he was performing
catNmouse [#45]i agree, ngl i actually felt sad when they got eliminated by loud in champs bc they played so well and it was really unfortunate shao underperformed because i think they would’ve beat loud 100% if he was performing
yeah abit unfortunate never the less though people only care if you hit tiktok shots, ange1 is one hell of a caller and i love his non "pussy" and risk taking playstyle makes it fun to watch. also running really unorthodox comps as well. literally not the same old boring spam B bomb site shit yk
kalayav_n [#46]yeah abit unfortunate never the less though people only care if you hit tiktok shots, ange1 is one hell of a caller and i love his non "pussy" and risk taking playstyle makes it fun to watch. also running really unorthodox comps as well. literally not the same old boring spam B bomb site shit yk
I don’t like that he role swaps with shao, it actually really frustrates me because imo shao wasted potential if he’s on omen or brim. also you should’ve seen the tarik video of him making fun of ange1 shit was funny af lmao
catNmouse [#47]I don’t like that he role swaps with shao, it actually really frustrates me because imo shao wasted potential if he’s on omen or brim. also you should’ve seen the tarik video of him making fun of ange1 shit was funny af lmao
lol ye saw the video, i also kinda agree the role swap killed the team but shao didnt really play bad he actually performed tbh. i just hope we see FPX run it back one day :(
kalayav_n [#48]lol ye saw the video, i also kinda agree the role swap killed the team but shao didnt really play bad he actually performed tbh. i just hope we see FPX run it back one day :(
nah i’d say -15 was pretty bad especially for a player of his caliber. he and ange1 are staying on navi 100%
ValAnalist1 [#50]The guy thinks it's a math game. Do you prefer
1+1+1+1+1
or
0+2+1+0+2
.
im glad twitter is banned for you bums, go to apac please and go with your dickriding partner
Shadow_Monarch [#52]TenZ best Omen in the world but Bang definitely better controller and better fit for a team. SEN needs a great controller like Bang.
we went from tenz being a very good omen to tenz being top 10 controllers to tenz now being the best omen, what is next? tenz is the best cypher?
kalayav_n [#51]im glad twitter is banned for you bums, go to apac please and go with your dickriding partner
This isn't pokemon for you to compare stats vs stats.
And btw, no more wins for your team.
ValAnalist1 [#54]This isn't pokemon for you to compare stats vs stats.
And btw, no more wins for your team.
noooooooo NO MA WEINS FA ME TEAM? :(
ShuGo [#55]one has gotten to 2 Grand Finals and also won them both while playing Controller for 2024, the other one hasn't done shit while playing Controller for all his life.
I can clearly identify which is a bum
forgot jett in 2021 had 3 smokes and was a controller
kalayav_n [#5]just wait til they see they how much sacy actually meant to the team when theyre shit ini cant setup the duelist
Narrate ain’t too bad. (Easily better then Com)
ParisVLR [#58]Narrate ain’t too bad. (Easily better then Com)
is the air that polluted in downtown michigan
kalayav_n [#16]lewandowski can't even fathom to or dream to be half the player suarez was and both are poachers/strikers so your even more dumb to make this comparison
Suarez is so much more than a poacher your troglodyte this is what I meant, sure they play the same position, but the way they play is much more different, what they provide past just basic goals is also different, the way the team played around them, and the team with them is completely different
kalayav_n [#5]just wait til they see they how much sacy actually meant to the team when theyre shit ini cant setup the duelist
val analist agrees with you
WhoseTao [#60]Suarez is so much more than a poacher your troglodyte this is what I meant, sure they play the same position, but the way they play is much more different, what they provide past just basic goals is also different, the way the team played around them, and the team with them is completely different
? lewandoswksi and suarez are well known poachers, the reasonn you think suarez isn't a pure poacher is because of his ability to actually play as a false 9 and link up play unlike lewandoswksi who you have to find straight and direct, this doesnt take away from the fact suraez is a literal poacher..
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