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meyournightmare

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bronzil_enjoyer

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hi my alt account

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Rocky54

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It’s not looking good

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CanadaMan

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Hi bronzil_enjoyer alt account

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Mortadelo

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If you want my educated guess

Ange1
Shao
hiro
Natank
A duelist, possibly Kamo/Click

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gold2peak

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Kamo in 2024 in crazy. So all they are going to do is drop better players for worse

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Mortadelo

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Kamo was statistically the best duelist in EMEA in Split 2. Not saying he actually is the best duelist, but he's definitely good

Also I'm not guessing there, it's an actual rumor

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gold2peak

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Suygetsu > hiro
Zyppan = natank
Ardiis > kamo
Is all im saying

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Mortadelo

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Not on this past years form. But regardless NAVI’s talent has never been the issue. They had talent enough to win anything. They just needed a change and a roster that started working

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Pato_Galactico

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I thought GX click was a done deal

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Mortadelo

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It isn’t. El Barco was saying the yesterday there is are considering Zyppan and Izzy as options

Also Click is playing ranked with Ange1 which is the weirdest pair of ranked I’ve ever seen if it ain’t connected

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Congo1

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Man... i think Click is good but i would expect a top tier solution for a team like navi. Surely theyd sign xeus instead

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Jivko

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rumour has it xeus can't op

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Congo1

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silly rumour

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Mortadelo

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Xeus is not doing as well as spected in screams has a buyout comfortably over 80k which is insane

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Congo1

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Then go after Kaajak? If fnc can sign him you should be able to do the same.

Plus... wtf is going on with izzy? In terms of pure strength the guy is the best duelist in EMEA imo.

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Mortadelo

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Sure but if you were Kajaak wouldn’t you choose FNC over NAVI? I’m sure they’re trying but they if he chooses somewhere else there isn’t much you can do. And FNC is gonna have the Derke money

And about Izzy I’ve heard GX and M8 interested in Izzy and QuitionerX I just can’t remember which is which xD

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Huitzilopochtli

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yo wtf Click and Ange1 duo is crazy, but i hope my king Click gets picked up for T1

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Congo1

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nah bro. no way they take kamo. I could see natank but overall i think navi will be more ambitious and spend more

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Mortadelo

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Ibai said the other day they have 2 very good offers for Kamo, and that at least 1 is tier 1. And according to the rumors that team seems like NAVI.

And I mean more ambitious how? Like I know it sounds a bit underwhelming, but who them? Can’t do Derke Ardiis Cned or Sayf.

If you have to go for a tier 2 duelist, kaajak I’m sure they’re trying but it’s not realistic tbh, and other than that if you try them all out and decide Kamo is the best available option I wouldn’t call you crazy, there’s many things we don’t see from the outside

Also people have a wrong image of Kamo, statistically he had the highest ACS last split in EMEA and the highest FKPR which means he wasn’t playing for numbers

And natank is just insane, it might be harder for you to see it and be objective being French but dude’s amazing. Also who else is there? Jamppi? Idk

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Huitzilopochtli

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all i want is Click in T1 and Lime is also free agent they should atleast trial him imo

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gold2peak

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Alorante is the only good German player he deserves t1

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Huitzilopochtli

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Al0rante is a beast he def needs to get T1 but Click aswell hes build diff

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Mortadelo

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Lime has already gotten plenty of trials, if he doesn’t get in is because there were better options

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Congo1

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natank would be great. no complaints there. i think kamo is good too. I am very aware that he is not a bad player at all but comparing it to the moves vitality is rumoured to be working on they just seem.... not as good? Like kamo is like option 4-5 in that role and that is being nice. If Koi starts him it would make perfect sense to me since they have different ambitions at this stage but Navi is an org that wants to win LANs.

This roster would be like 4th-5th in EMEA to me at this stage. I feel like Navi should want more

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gold2peak

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What are the moves vitality is making? They moved off derke

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Mortadelo

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But who do you sign tho? What duelist would you get? Kaajak, sure, I’m sure they tried, but if they can’t then what?

If they like Kamo or Click over xeus or someone else we rate higher they might have a reason, idk. Ik it sounds underwhelming but I really don’t see another option

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Jivko

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im not convinced Click and Natank are the right players for Navi :/

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Huitzilopochtli

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click is really good, he was the best duelist in Dach with Lime and has crazy potential

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gold2peak

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Dach league reeks

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Congo1

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they were the only region with 2 teams at ascension. One of them made top 3

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Aquemini

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Click is a clear upgrade over ardiss. Natank over zyppan idk but time will tell.

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Huitzilopochtli

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Click has this season a near 50% hs rate with vandal, this guy is farming rankeds with ange1

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Aquemini

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Yeah and he can also play neon raze and even some smokers.

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Huitzilopochtli

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hes my goat for reason

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Mortadelo

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Natank was miles better than Zyppan last year at least

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gold2peak

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but zyppan has 10 times more experience and if you take a bigger sample size than just this year i think it's fair to say they're equally good

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Mortadelo

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Sure, but the reality of Zyppan in NAVI is what it is

My point being, Natank next year will be better for NAVI than Zyppan was last year because of the context. Which makes it an upgrade, regardless of who’s the better player

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Congo1

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if you asked me to pick one for the next season i would pick natank. it is what it is

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Liwus

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Aspas

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Jivko

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NAVI aspas who says no (beside his 1mil buyout)

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gold2peak

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It's 250k but he's a weeb so he's going to asia