New agent thoughts

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NexusNomad

Don't see her replacing kj or cypher. She literally has no utility which gives information except that wall but then surely we don't use her wall in mid or somewhere for info, thay wall is designed to block a site hit after one agent enters. Her Molly is slightly bad version of kj Molly. Her flash is literally breach flash but you can activate it anytime and breach flash is the worst flash in the game. Ult is good but can only find value in buy rounds.

Honestly she might be another ranked agent or double sentinel comps which happens rarely

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cloudberry

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She feels like a more aggressive Sage to me

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NexusNomad

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How so?
She seems like a hybrid of sage and kj but worse version of both of them.

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cloudberry

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The only piece of util she has that reminds me of Killjoy is her thorn trap (I don't know the ability names yet), but even that I'd argue is essentially a Sage slow that damages you when you move. Her wall is also like a Sage wall but it activates off sound so the use case is very different. The differences in her kit are where Sage's restoration abilities are (heal + res), where Vyse has debuffs instead (loss of vision and loss of primary weapon). Essentially she's like an anti-Sage in my eyes, where instead of helping her team, per se, she's harming the enemy team

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You cant replace KJ and Cypher on Bind

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cohnr

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i thought she looked weak but the more i think about she seems like she could work as solo sentinel

she has great site delay

she can hold flank (although worse in some aspects, can be stronger than KJ bot on defence to isolate and take advantageous 1v1/2v1's with team)

she can set up retakes and site takes with flash, which comes back in 20 seconds and can be used for the retake to stall/take control after tap, the flash can also be activated without being close so flash so could be on one side of site, flash other side and take an isolated 1v1 against a flashed opponent, get out with 1 kill and have a flash for retake (not sure if there is a range but could also be used at different sites if needed)

her slows just look like a better version of sage slow in pretty much every way, not sure if im missing something there

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NexusNomad

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Kj alarmbot is usually placed in mid for info but her wall ability isn't designed to be placed in mid for info. Like I said breach flashes is literally the worst flash in the game so her flashes arent that great. Her slow is like kj Molly which can be broken. She provides little to no information is what I'm saying why she won't be picked over kj or cypher

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cohnr

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as far as i know, the slow only does damage if youre moving so its more akin to sage slow but better in every way

as i said, worse in some aspects and better in other for the wall, you cant just use util the same when it isnt the same util

the flash we kinda have to see in game, when there is other pressure youre not going to have time to turn it so thats probably the use case for it, util dump and flash, seems pretty strong to me

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The new agent looks good for doing combos with other agents and doing agressive post plant plays and retakes.

Vine trap is good for combining with slows, seizes, and the crouch grenade. With that radius surely kills a low hp player.

The blind is hard to destroy when its placed on a high place. Other agents can capitalize on the blind, might be good to combine with another flash like gecko flash.

The wall can isolate and trap players making the percentage of a 5v4 higher.

The ult combined with kayo's ult can turn a buy round into an eco round and raze rocket, chamber op, jett knives are useless.

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jawn

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i wanna see a team cook up some devious vyse deadlock comp

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humble_y0y_10k

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if the wall thing gives reliable passive info she will be good

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RzqoFoxie

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She looks badass and incredibly fun to play and annoying to play against