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(no cap) how id make CN 2025 watchable

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#1
jitterthetimberman

TL;DR (CN's top 3 sells all their extra players, break up the 2023 NRG 0-4 BLG core more, +rin & +Zero1 back into S-tier, separate monk & bunt from each other in AG, +more cracked CN/TW ranked demons +more Aussies, +more APAC = watchable CN 2025)

EDG: -Haodong -WoodAy1
FPX: -idk, AAAAY/Lysoar, ig?
TE: -cxyy, maybe -HeiB too if HK has more cracked players?
AG: -monk/bunt

Rest of CN:
-whoever
+the rest of NRG 0-4 BLG core (Knight, whzy, Yosemite) from 2023 into separate teams each
+rin
+Zero1
+more cracked CN/TW ranked demons
+Aussies (their CS scene has to be as bad, if not worse than the rest of Asia, besides MongolZ, especially if they all gotta matchfix like NA. Just get whoever ain't in TLN or FlyQuest to learn Chinese and stop betting, or whatever ESIC said they did. NA & EMEA VAL thrives on banned CS pros, just do that too, but no criminals like whoever signs ntk, pancc, & pavel tho)
= RIP BLG (& ASE), maybe the next FPX & TE

+APAC rejects (whoever tries to learn or already knows Chinese. So basically get Zest, whoever RRQ/GE/TLN/T1/BLD dumps after every season worth a try, Benkai, CGRS, and any Singaporean not on PRX or BLD rn/anymore. Miss me with the Japanese till they're actually good)
= nephh in BLG/vo0kashu in DRG

Idc if allat makes CN look way too NA, I just want rb to look less like he's wasting time in TEC, it'd also make APAC be less of a South Korean showcase featuring PRX

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xSaneZ
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Why would you put this amount of effort for something so meaningless

#5
jitterthetimberman
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Bruh, I got hard stuck watching DACH, French. Thai, and Singaporean VAL for Ascension all year. Plz

#3
waxsly
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Its already the most watched league in vct

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jitterthetimberman
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It might just my NA copium, but cool (if true)

#4
chrlxz
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watch your step

#11
jitterthetimberman
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Sure, sure, whatever that's supposed to mean

#6
RedZero
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allat

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H3ENnZ
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rin is a fraud dont add him he needs to prove himself in tier 2 with b3ar as BLG rejects

#8
jitterthetimberman
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BLG rejects lowkey sounds kinda lit, ngl

Deadass, I'd rather watch rin be a fraud than a lot of players in CN rn

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H3ENnZ
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Gimme a list lemme see if its valid or not

#16
jitterthetimberman
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TEC (-rb)
TYL (-hfmi)
AG (-deLb. Which sucks, cause they looked good earlier)
JDG (-stew, -Viva, -YiHao. I really liked RA 2023)
NOVA (-Swerl. They seem inconsistent af)

Used to hate watching WOL too, till SiuFatBB joined
Super on the fence on BLG all year
Dunno what to say bout DRG's downfall
TE really impressed me after adding Biank

EDG & FPX are pretty much the only CN teams IMO have been completely fine all year

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H3ENnZ
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Viva is great Swerl is great they should stay but
I agree with hfm deLb but i doubt TEC will drop Rb
-shion7 form DRG to save them hes not good

#19
jitterthetimberman
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TEC aren't. I really wanna see rb, Viva, and Swerl do well, but their teams depress me so much, I can't tell if I want basically everybody else off, or a worthwhile APAC team to pick em up anymore

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Ryzmii
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hire english cast for cn first pls so those who dont speak chinese can watch :DDD

#20
jitterthetimberman
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Ehh, I don't think they need to get rid of local casting. Just hire a dedicated English cast living in CN and get some English speaking streamers to give CN the tarik treatment

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Ryzmii
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i didnt say to fire CN casters, just move CN stream to china sites like bilibili or shit, douyu etc, and give the twitch stream english casters, just like in LoL

#12
bobkiller
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btw haodong is coaching if you didn’t know

#14
jitterthetimberman
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I didn't. Now I feel dumber for including Haodong, when did this happen?

#15
bobkiller
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ever since s1mon joined

also ayyy is high key fpx best player

#18
jitterthetimberman
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Ah

Also, if EDG wins Champs and TE suddenly falls off like BLG, FPX are the only team who can boost the rest of CN. +Aussies worked before.

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xSaneZ
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The reason why BLG fell off is because Biank stopped IGLing for them and no one else could IGL. In the worst case that he does it again (he won't) for TE, heybay can still IGL and they won't fall of that hard but will look worse

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I still think breaking up the BLG core like they did to ASE (see: Life in FPX) would help CN more overall, but good to know TE might not fall off too hard and how it wasn't anything worse than not having a dedicated IGL

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geospliced
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Your only reasonable take here is to get Zero1 back into VCT.

#21
jitterthetimberman
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My guy Zero1 got done so dirty, how he and yoman weren't picked up by any other CN teams triggered me bad

I dunno, dude, I tried, I said what I felt more than what I thought

#25
geospliced
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And I absolutely respect that. I personally also think that there will be plenty of changes, but I have a vendetta against rin.

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