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karon vs tenz

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#1
strawwwwws

pls never compare the goat tenz to a fraud ever again pls

#2
idkmanwth
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and next year if geng beats sen, we get to see people saying karon better than tenZ. lets not hate and appreciate having such good players

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BulkyLettuce
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TenZ was the highest rated and MVP of the match and Karon was 2nd worst in the server, they aren't even in the same universe

#14
idkmanwth
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i hope sen meets prx (if prx makes it out of groups, i hope they do), i wanna see who's cock you'll be sucking

#17
BulkyLettuce
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then I will be happy for whoever wins, both my favorite teams

they will meet in the grand finals

#24
idkmanwth
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sure man, whatever makes you sleep at night, and remember, youre alive for a purpose, i hope you achieve that :)))

#25
strawwwwws
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always dicksuck when it comes to sen when your here glazing tf outta karon and geng your a loser

#26
idkmanwth
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when did i glaze karon and geng you fucking retard, learn to read properly

#27
strawwwwws
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let’s not go back through your posts sped. get your ass gone stupid ass loser incel talking to me rn

#28
idkmanwth
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you checked my previous posts? just to hate on me? thats some serious dedication ngl, hope you have a nice day

#10
strawwwwws
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i would agree if it weren’t for half of the site hating tenz for being alive

#13
idkmanwth
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they hate the people/teams doing good, so thats why whenever they do bad, they talk a stream of shit

#3
Ryuukami
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t0nz gave me money like a good boy so obv he's better

#4
Charism
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Bro both are good, this is uncalled for, a foolish comment

#5
BulkyLettuce
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TenZ easily better, today confirmed it

TenZ was the highest rated and MVP of the match and Karon was 2nd worst in the server

#6
reaper_rega08
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What do you mean by 'the goat' say 'my goat'. He ain't a goat according to majority.

#8
BulkyLettuce
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theres no 1 player that everyone agrees to be the goat

#7
Inort
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Why are u even comparing? Both have different tasks for their team and both are doing what their team needs

#15
strawwwwws
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if you had a brain you would’ve seen everyone was saying karon cleared tenz

#18
Inort
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Karon did clear Tenz many times. A single match cant decide a players reputation

#19
BulkyLettuce
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many times? TenZ always exposes him when it matters most. You are talking out of your ass

TenZ was the highest rated and MVP of the match and Karon was 2nd worst in the server

#22
Inort
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U considering just a match? With that logic Saadhak had a better raze than jingg
Karon gonna get the rookie of the year anways

#23
BulkyLettuce
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TenZ also cleared him in madrid grand finals, like I said TenZ always destroys him when it matters most

GENG and SEN faced in 2 elim games this year and TenZ cleared Karon in both and sent him home

#11
HeIsTet
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Karon is better clutch, but Tenz just has more impact in rounds. He's always getting those important kills to win the round.

#12
michaelisupset
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they’re very different players

#16
Derpp
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one bad game and immediately called a fraud, karon is the best controller 2024 if mako does not win champs

#20
strawwwwws
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yall always wanna act like this as soon as sen clear ur teams

#21
BulkyLettuce
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best controller doesnt matter, tenz is the better player and today showed that

#29
AltonBu02
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If Sen or TH don't win champs, I'd say Karon. If TH win champs, I'd say Boo (stats aren't as impressive, but he's IGL as well and he's just as flexible as Karon). And if Sen wins champs, I'd say Tenz. DRX didn't even make an event this year before Champs.

#30
Derpp
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tenz isn't the best 'controller' by any means, he can't play viper or brim or at least didnt show them on stage
and no boo is mid. just mid. he can't be the best controller unless he drops +40 in champs grand finals

#32
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How can you include Mako who didn't make a single event this entire year before Champs. Not even a top placement, he just straight up didn't make any masters. Mako stats have also been mid for the most part, but he's also an igl; a similar situation to Boo no? The difference is that Boo's team (TH) has had top placements in tournaments previous to Champs and have made every single masters.

As for Tenz, if Sen can win 2 tournaments with Tenz being one of their top fraggers on Omen, then he deserves the award. Kind of like, if someone is so good at one agent and their team performs well largely because of how good he is at that one agent, then the negative of him lacking flexibility gets countered by his proficiency at that one agent. That's my take at least. For example, if someone had insane stats while leading their team to a Champs and masters victory while playing Jett on every map would you not say he's duelist of the year?

Also my bad, I would include Valyn as controller of the year as well if G2 won.

#35
Derpp
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valyn is valid
and no, tenz might be the best omen if he win but he's not the best controller, you cant call a player the best of a class just because he plays one single agent well
ex) jinggg, everyone called him the best 'raze' not the best duelist when he peaked during 23 champs

boo was chosen to be the igl pre-season and he had plenty of time to gather his form, unlike mako who had to take on abruptly because his predecessor left during season, so i'd say mako's 'mid' stats during stage 2 is warranted(esp the way he started cooking again by stage 2 playoffs)

tbh i have bias for mako but his absense during the two masters is warranted no? DRX got fucked by prime geng badly and i dont think other teams would have escaped that scenario

#37
AltonBu02
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I can actually agree with your take on Tenz. I do agree that Mako's predecessor leaving was unfortunate and that Mako's stats dropped because of that, but in all honesty, the context doesn't matter nearly as much as the actual performance of the player throughout the entire year when you're talking about who performed the "best" in a certain category. The fact that Mako never even attended a single masters before champs really hurts his viability tbh. I would place Mako above Tenz, and my ranking would probably change to this:

Valyn (if G2 won Champs) > Boo (if TH won Champs) > Karon (if G2 or TH didn't win Champs) > Mako (if DRX win Champs) > and Tenz (if Sen wins Champs)

We can agree to disagree, I just think the inconsistency of Mako and his team thoughout the entire year makes it hard for me to call him the best controller of the year over Karon (even if DRX wins).

#40
Derpp
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fair enough
the only part i disagree with is the boo(if he wins champs) > karon part, but as you said we can just agree to disagree

#42
AltonBu02
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that's fair, I think Boo has been amazing for TH and a big part of their success, but that might have less to do with his ability as a controller and more to do with how good of an IGL he is. It's definitely debatable no doubt about that.

#31
NowhereToBeFound
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Sentinels fans getting uppity again

as if Karon hasnt had the most impressive rookie performance of 2024

#33
SunnyFromVLR
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tenz has had better stats whole year and today tenz was on a different level than karon

#34
AltonBu02
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I don't know what you're watching, but Tenz has not had better stats the entire year. Tenz was better than Karon today, but Karon was better than Tenz last time. As players they are pretty much equal, and as a controller Karon > Tenz (if Sen wins champs it's a different story imo). I don't think you watch APAC bro.

#36
BulkyLettuce
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GENG and SEN faced in 2 do or die elimination games this year and TenZ diffed Karon in both, its obvious who is better and its the player who shows up when it matters most

#38
AltonBu02
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While TenZ did make a significant impact in those crucial elimination games, it’s important to remember that a few high-stakes matches don’t tell the whole story. Karon’s consistent performance throughout the season and his overall skill set are what truly define him as a top-tier player.

In competitive gaming, many factors influence the outcome of a match, and a single series of games doesn’t fully capture a player’s abilities or potential. Karon’s gameplay and contributions to his team have been outstanding across numerous games and situations, showcasing a high level of skill and strategic understanding.

It’s worth noting that TenZ’s notable performances in those elimination games were impressive, but Karon’s ability to perform under pressure, his consistency throughout the season, and his overall impact on the game speak volumes about his prowess as a player. The ability to deliver in critical moments is important, but Karon’s broader track record and contributions should not be overlooked.

In the grand scheme, both players have their own strengths and moments of brilliance. Karon’s sustained excellence and ability to maintain high performance across various situations highlight his exceptional talent and make him a better player.

#39
BulkyLettuce
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wrong, TenZ was the best player in the server with the highest rating and Karon was the 2nd worst in the server. That is why TenZ is playing in champions still and Karon is back home. This same thing happened in madrid grand finals where TenZ played way better than Karon

#41
AltonBu02
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While TenZ did indeed have impressive performances and higher ratings in those particular matches, it's essential to recognize that a few high-stakes games don't capture the full scope of a player’s talent and career. Karon’s overall skill, strategic understanding, and contributions throughout the season reflect his status as a top-tier player.

In competitive gaming, performance in isolated matches, while significant, doesn't always define a player's long-term potential or their impact on the game. Karon has demonstrated his exceptional abilities and consistency across various contexts, which is why he’s considered a highly skilled player. The fact that TenZ had standout moments doesn’t diminish Karon’s broader achievements and capabilities.

Moreover, the dynamics of a few matches, including the Madrid Grand Finals, highlight specific moments but don’t necessarily represent the entirety of a player’s skill set. Karon’s track record and his contributions in numerous games underscore his strength as a player. Sometimes, even the best can face challenging games or situations that don't fully reflect their usual performance.

Karon’s resilience, strategic insight, and overall gameplay are what set him apart in the long run, and his ability to perform consistently across various scenarios is a testament to his greatness in the competitive scene.

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