who really is the goat?

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so as we all know, winning champs is all that matters. So if u havent won champs truly unlucky u can't be the goat

so now lets list all the champs winners
Starxo, Zeek, cNed, Bonecold, Kiles
Sacy, Saadhak, Pancada, Less, Aspas
Demon1, Jawgemo, Boostio, c0m, Ethan

so now lets eliminate some easy ones from the goat debate
starxo, zeek, bonecold, kiles, c0m
we will also eliminate demon1 (got benched by FNS), Ethan (plays for MIDRG), Boostio (lost to Furia and didn't retire), sacy (Sen fans hate him idk love that guy), saadhak (stop playing neon bro), Pancada (bro got benched by zellsis), and finally Jawgemo (lost to MIBR 😭😭)

we are left with, cNed, Less, and Aspas

now these 3 are very good players, so lets look at longevity

cNed has been playing in T1 for every year of VCT
aspas and less has been playing in T1 for not every year of VCT

thus cNed is the goat

idk i got bored, and baiting on vlr is fun. this isnt a bait tho dont get me wrong cNed is the goat

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CanadianLegend

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now I’m not saying there’s any bias but…..

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number2_cNed_fan

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??
Im an unbiased 3rd party

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sentinelmain377

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpdqmHvSoSA

top 10 clutch of all time.

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number2_cNed_fan

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The way he shoots with the awp
Its not flashy. But you know he'll hit the shot

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FireII

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kickoff cNed tho 💀💀

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CanadianLegend

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Cned and KangKang are the best oppers in the game there is no conversation

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Yuh_aye

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mf's forgot about nivera that man was too nice with the awp

also, prime yay

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catNmouse

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unfortunately he was on n0vi so aspas better 😞

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number2_cNed_fan

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Made NaVi look good
Surely thats something (not Ilya Petrov)

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catNmouse

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tbh they were really close against loud, all games were 13-11. heartbreaking that they lost champs like that

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number2_cNed_fan

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Should have closed out drx bind in the first place 😭

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catNmouse

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would’ve still lost i feel bc drx is navi/fpx’s kryptonite

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sentinelmain377

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top 15 player of the year (2023) despite being on NAVI

2023:

FNATIC Leo
FNATIC Alfajer
EG Demon1
FNATIC Chronicle
LOUD Aspas
FNATIC Derke
EG Jawgemo
LOUD Less
PRX d4v4i
TL Sayf
EG Ethan
PRX Something
NAVI cNed
EDG Zmjkk
NRG s0m
NAVI Shao
DRX MaKo
PRX F0rsaken
FUT MrFaliN
GIA Cloud

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espeon

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there miiiiight be a little bias here, but idk

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number2_cNed_fan

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Where! I dont see it
Is it behind me?

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espeon

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Hehe, it was Me behind you....

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number2_cNed_fan

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gulp

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sentinelmain377

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omg. best post ever.

#14

number2_cNed_fan

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Nah the one about runner was better
I can't remember what it was about tho

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idkmanwth

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leo faria is the undisputed goat

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number2_cNed_fan

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congratz on the raise man!

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idkmanwth

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tysmm!!

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Samsat78

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Stop embarassing cn0b bruh. How could the goat got ptsd againts kangkang 😂

#19

I_LOVE_LESS

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RAHHH LESS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME I LOVE FELIPE BASSO

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Tf I thought his name is Felipe de loyola

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I_LOVE_LESS

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vlr misinfo as always mickey mouse website doesnt even know the king's real name

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destroylonely

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W glaze

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yehfela

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s3xture and meteor
Insane duo for spear head and shield

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number2_cNed_fan

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well i clearly stated that to be the goat you need to win champs
so unless they win champs nt unluck go next

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meadows

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Me. I’m the goat

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i11matic

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For now its asspiss

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cloudberry

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I feel the arguments for Demon1, pANcada, and Saadhak are unjustified. Demon1 and pANcada didn't choose to get benched (Demon1 got benched for FNS which is understandable, and pANcada didn't fill the role that Sentinels needed which happens). As for Saadhak, he doesn't even want to play duelist—he would get off Neon if he could.

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number2_cNed_fan

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i would never bait on vlr

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cloudberry

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Yup. And I would never take my time to write a well thought-out argument to obvious bait.

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gambusia1302

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To be honest, your argument and logical process wasn't too out of the place, I guess if we reduce the sample size to only champions winners cNed should be top 3 with Sacy and Aspas

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flanador

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Sacy is the goat because he’s bald. Simple as that

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number2_cNed_fan

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i did not think about that....
hmm
ima have to deny that

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flanador

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Just imagine if cned was bald and how much better he could be cause of it

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number2_cNed_fan

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cNed is the opposite of bald
he is only playing at 10% of his power
you have opened my eyes flanador

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n1cf

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i nominate runner cuz he be running

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number2_cNed_fan

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but from what 🤔🤔

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n1cf

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I can't say that. If i do I wouldn't stop.

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yoshiGG

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zeek is the goat