who really is the goat?

so as we all know, winning champs is all that matters. So if u havent won champs truly unlucky u can't be the goat

so now lets list all the champs winners
Starxo, Zeek, cNed, Bonecold, Kiles
Sacy, Saadhak, Pancada, Less, Aspas
Demon1, Jawgemo, Boostio, c0m, Ethan

so now lets eliminate some easy ones from the goat debate
starxo, zeek, bonecold, kiles, c0m
we will also eliminate demon1 (got benched by FNS), Ethan (plays for MIDRG), Boostio (lost to Furia and didn't retire), sacy (Sen fans hate him idk love that guy), saadhak (stop playing neon bro), Pancada (bro got benched by zellsis), and finally Jawgemo (lost to MIBR 😭😭)

we are left with, cNed, Less, and Aspas

now these 3 are very good players, so lets look at longevity

cNed has been playing in T1 for every year of VCT
aspas and less has been playing in T1 for not every year of VCT

thus cNed is the goat

now I’m not saying there’s any bias but…..

unfortunately he was on n0vi so aspas better 😞

catNmouse [#3]

unfortunately he was on n0vi so aspas better 😞

Made NaVi look good
Surely thats something (not Ilya Petrov)

CanadianLegend [#2]

now I’m not saying there’s any bias but…..

??
Im an unbiased 3rd party

there miiiiight be a little bias here, but idk

omg. best post ever.

catNmouse [#3]

unfortunately he was on n0vi so aspas better 😞

top 15 player of the year (2023) despite being on NAVI

2023:

CanadianLegend [#2]

now I’m not saying there’s any bias but…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpdqmHvSoSA

top 10 clutch of all time.

number2_cNed_fan [#4]

Made NaVi look good
Surely thats something (not Ilya Petrov)

tbh they were really close against loud, all games were 13-11. heartbreaking that they lost champs like that

sentinelmain377 [#9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpdqmHvSoSA

top 10 clutch of all time.

The way he shoots with the awp
Its not flashy. But you know he'll hit the shot

catNmouse [#10]

tbh they were really close against loud, all games were 13-11. heartbreaking that they lost champs like that

Should have closed out drx bind in the first place 😭

espeon [#6]

there miiiiight be a little bias here, but idk

Where! I dont see it
Is it behind me?

sentinelmain377 [#7]

omg. best post ever.

Nah the one about runner was better
I can't remember what it was about tho

sentinelmain377 [#9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpdqmHvSoSA

top 10 clutch of all time.

Cned and KangKang are the best oppers in the game there is no conversation

number2_cNed_fan [#13]

Where! I dont see it
Is it behind me?

Hehe, it was Me behind you....

leo faria is the undisputed goat

Stop embarassing cn0b bruh. How could the goat got ptsd againts kangkang 😂

RAHHH LESS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME I LOVE FELIPE BASSO

number2_cNed_fan [#11]

The way he shoots with the awp
Its not flashy. But you know he'll hit the shot

kickoff cNed tho 💀💀

I_LOVE_LESS [#19]

RAHHH LESS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME I LOVE FELIPE BASSO

Tf I thought his name is Felipe de loyola

I_LOVE_LESS [#19]

RAHHH LESS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME I LOVE FELIPE BASSO

W glaze

IonlywatchvcjXD [#21]

Tf I thought his name is Felipe de loyola

vlr misinfo as always mickey mouse website doesnt even know the king's real name

s3xture and meteor
Insane duo for spear head and shield

Me. I’m the goat

CanadianLegend [#15]

Cned and KangKang are the best oppers in the game there is no conversation

mf's forgot about nivera that man was too nice with the awp

also, prime yay

espeon [#16]

Hehe, it was Me behind you....

gulp

idkmanwth [#17]

leo faria is the undisputed goat

congratz on the raise man!

yehfela [#24]

s3xture and meteor
Insane duo for spear head and shield

well i clearly stated that to be the goat you need to win champs
so unless they win champs nt unluck go next

For now its asspiss

I feel the arguments for Demon1, pANcada, and Saadhak are unjustified. Demon1 and pANcada didn't choose to get benched (Demon1 got benched for FNS which is understandable, and pANcada didn't fill the role that Sentinels needed which happens). As for Saadhak, he doesn't even want to play duelist—he would get off Neon if he could.

cloudberry [#31]

I feel the arguments for Demon1, pANcada, and Saadhak are unjustified. Demon1 and pANcada didn't choose to get benched (Demon1 got benched for FNS which is understandable, and pANcada didn't fill the role that Sentinels needed which happens). As for Saadhak, he doesn't even want to play duelist—he would get off Neon if he could.

i would never bait on vlr

To be honest, your argument and logical process wasn't too out of the place, I guess if we reduce the sample size to only champions winners cNed should be top 3 with Sacy and Aspas

number2_cNed_fan [#32]

i would never bait on vlr

Yup. And I would never take my time to write a well thought-out argument to obvious bait.

Sacy is the goat because he’s bald. Simple as that

i nominate runner cuz he be running

flanador [#35]

Sacy is the goat because he’s bald. Simple as that

i did not think about that....
hmm
ima have to deny that

n1cf [#36]

i nominate runner cuz he be running

but from what 🤔🤔

number2_cNed_fan [#28]

congratz on the raise man!

tysmm!!

number2_cNed_fan [#38]

but from what 🤔🤔

I can't say that. If i do I wouldn't stop.

number2_cNed_fan [#37]

i did not think about that....
hmm
ima have to deny that

Just imagine if cned was bald and how much better he could be cause of it

flanador [#41]

Just imagine if cned was bald and how much better he could be cause of it

cNed is the opposite of bald
he is only playing at 10% of his power
you have opened my eyes flanador

number2_cNed_fan [#12]

Should have closed out drx bind in the first place 😭

would’ve still lost i feel bc drx is navi/fpx’s kryptonite

zeek is the goat