Personally I had some doubt in both teams due to their igl's. Boo and Magnum didn't have the best trackrecords as players in years prior, but once you gave those mfs that degree of talant and baller coaches, they got to cook. Much respect to those two for, imo, over performing on their beginning of year expectations. At least for TH tho, Benjy was a huge brightspot at LCQ last year so he had good expectations. Then Miniboo and wo0t were basically talked about like prime aspas, so I expected them both to be star level. KC was also just a bunch of highly promising talents and the sole brightspot of the previous roster.
What I mean by all of this is that the preseason rankings were really too based on these teams 2023 rosters and not their 2024 rosters. If were really considered their 2024 rosters beforehand without looking through a doom lens, then we probably would have thrown them as a consensus mid-tier teams. But obviously they've overperformed that as well.