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explaining my point

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thenutoriousPRO

im not necessarily saying that flor is some world class player, although i personally believe she has the potential to be one
all im saying is that people will hype up players all the time for playing good in ranked or in absolute shit teams, but as soon as its a trans women its like "she needs to prove herself more"
i think every person has a little bit of bias and it shows from some of u guys

when a team picks up an unknown t10 player: "give him a chance"
when ppl suggest flor should get a chance in t2: "gc is so shit she has never proved herself"

the difference between the way talented male and female players get treated is all i have a problem with

holy yap, hope this makes sense

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ButterflyEffect23
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comparing her to Whzy was crazy tho ngl

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nobody___100
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every NA fan has billy billy trauma, me included
we will 26-0 them at champs dw

#5
Froggy0_0
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billy aint making champs
trace w/ billy igl "biank" will mop you

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nobody___100
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idk who biank is, is that the "fns are you ok" guy?

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Froggy0_0
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biank was billy igl

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ButterflyEffect23
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"FNS are you ok" is Knight's phrase

Biank owned NRG on Lotus

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nobody___100
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is he the guy with that one clip
where he killed s0m defusing through the box

#15
ButterflyEffect23
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yeah, he sprayed them down in that 1v3 and killed the defuser

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nobody___100
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damn that was a good clip icl

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Ballsamolee
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That was knight or yosemite. I forgot which tho.

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ButterflyEffect23
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it was Knight
Yosemite had a 1v2 spraydown behind the Toxic Screen

#21
Er3ngenes1s
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take a map first then blud 💀

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nobody___100
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fns will do his homework

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thenutoriousPRO
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not comparing them skill wise
comparing the way they are perceived when they were starting. both were prodigies who hadn't really prove themselves in a high quality league

both should have been treated the same, either ppl should have shit on whzy for playing in a low quality league or we should hype up and give a flor a chance to prove herself like we gave whzy

dont know why its so hard for people to understand that great players can play in bad leagues, so many players have proved it

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ButterflyEffect23
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I don't think you really understand how good Whzy was when he got his hype

https://www.vlr.gg/35478/tales-of-eastern-vs-kone-fgc-valorant-invitational-ubsf

farmed stacked KONE roster at the time(almost everyone is in tier-1 China now)

https://www.vlr.gg/159492/edward-gaming-vs-tales-of-eastern-fgc-valorant-invitational-2022-epilogue-w2

destroyed current EDG(with Abo, who's also in franchise now)

https://www.vlr.gg/35483/edward-gaming-vs-tales-of-eastern-fgc-valorant-invitational-gf

Annihilated old EDG with Life and went 26-6 in the openers

Whzy had way more feats and he was just switching from CS

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thenutoriousPRO
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this was super early in chinese val no? skill level is comparable to gc ngl

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thenutoriousPRO
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just watched this clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/NiceAstuteVampireAsianGlow-PVlAbZxWT_wQfbpI
sorry but those guys were playing like complete ass, need to watch the entire game to see if these guys are better than na game changers

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Froggy0_0
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any t2 team would benefit from flor in their team

#6
Ballsamolee
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Idk about any team, but she will be good in tier 2.

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nobody___100
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facts, some of what you said in the other thread was some crack shit but I can get behind this. there's an underlying sexism/transphobia in the community, and I'm gonna get downvoted by these people (too pussy to talk) but whatever.

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Cheasle2
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Thank you for speaking up, goat

#22
Ballsamolee
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Yeah. Ppl just get downvoted without anybody to reply to them.

#23
dort
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florescent would be a below average player in Tier 1 and Tier 2. quit meat riding that bum already

#25
Targu1n
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And youre not wrong
Who knows if its because of map pool, meta or whatever, fact is this has been the year where we've seen the most crossover between tiers (apart from the early days).
A player picked up based on ranked just won an international looking like one of the best players itw
A t2 team was Americas best representative
EMEAs strongest team this year is filled to the brim with t2 players
and so on

And that does translate to t2 too (can only point to emea t2 since I dont watch americas or pacific atm)
Chipi Chapa's (literal ranked demons) just ended a split second in their region, above Ascend (3rd place ascension finishers and general t2 powerhouse)
SweetNsour (a literal t3 team before this year, except for their igl) just trashed Apeks in a bo3
and theres a ton more t3 talent doing well here too

So what is to say someone like flor couldnt do the same? Till she goes to t2 we dont know so theres really no point in getting upset over someone entertaining the possibility
And this goes for pretty much any player, as a sidenote, not just flor. Let people cheer for their favorite t2 player to get picked up in t1 without feeling the need to trash on them.

#27
nobody___100
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well said

#26
kirito5133
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your statement doesn't make sense with icy who despite proving himself people are calling calling him to drop him still? i seen some people compare flor to icy and whzy i am like flor cant even clear zeldris where icy whzy debate coming from.

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kirito5133
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wait your the guy who is comparing whzy icy to flor lmao such a hypocrite.

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