All time best players by role

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ChrisGG

Only players that have been top notch for 2-3 years at least, no inconsistent players. Consistency is more valuable here than a one tournament or 1 year peak and be average forever again. Also I’ll take point from peaking with broken chamber or 2021 Jett

Mine is:
Duelist: Aspas ( no one is close to him but 2nd prolly Derke or Jingg , Keznit also underrated but he’s not top 3 )

Initiator: Leo ( Sacy was insane for 2 years but fell off and honorable mention for Crashies and Nzr )

Smokes: Mako ( this one is such a big gap that I won’t mention anyone here )

Sentinel: Less ( Suygetsu , Nats and Alfa are insane but less Is a different beast)

IGL: Saadhak ( no one close )

Flex: F0rsaken and Chronicle tie

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ChrisGG

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Actually for Flex it’s a tie between Chronicle and F0rsaken

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SAMPV6

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f0rsaken clears that fraud

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Froggy0_0

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chronicle clears without any doubt

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bro do you know what flex means? forsaken can play anything at a high level. chronicle is great but in terms of flex forsaken fs

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EntryKJ

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Chronicle can also play any role.
From what I remember, he has played Raze, Brim, Sova, Viper, Breach, Kayo, Sage, Skye, Cypher, and Chamber in VCT.
Number of agents shouldn't be the only factor when both can play more than 5 agents well anyway.

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yeah when was the last time he played raze. Forsaken had to replace monyet on raze and was looking like prime jing and in tokyo he had to fill the duelist and didn't skip a beat. I'm not trying to undermine chronicle but imo forsaken still clears

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bigboy

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chronicle clears f0rsaken so hard i dont get where this delusion is coming from

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XiXiWiiPee

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forsaken no trophy and not even top 10 rating in every event hes played how can he be better than a 3x winner

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BoF7ooM

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chronicle hard clears forsaken lol. He actually "won" almost all of his tournies with atleast top 5 rating.

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Hashib

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less the viper sentinel. As for smokes wasnt Karon doing pretty well this year? Feels like he fell off too fast though

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ChrisGG

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Yh but I value consistency over the years more than a 1 year wonder for all time goats

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Froggy0_0

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less is better on controller put my goat nAts in sentinel

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Froggy0_0

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soogetsoo would do too

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Hashib

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get nats on a better team first

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chick

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All i see are good players from 2023 why do y’all make “all time” lists but don’t mention goats from the past smh

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Anoymouse

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stfu respect goat Aspas, Less and Saadhaak. Ur team lost to qor lmfao. and not even tier 1. L

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Hashib

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aspas,less,forsaken.sadhaak,mako,crashies has been in top since 2022 lol

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ChrisGG

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All those players were also good in 2022 and are still the best or one
Of the best in those roles

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EntryKJ

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Duelist - Aspas
Sentinel - Less
Smokes - Mako
Initiator - Leo
Flex - Chronicle
IGL - Saadhak

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Froggy0_0

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oh didnt know 6 players can play at once on 1 team

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EntryKJ

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I didn't say it was a team.
The post also doesn't ask for a team.
The post says 'by role', and lists 6 roles.

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Siigma777

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Great list but I think Marved and Pancada at minimum need a mention for the smokes tier. Mako had a bit of a down year last year like these 2 so I don't think they are that far off

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Where’s y0y

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Coures

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y1y*

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C0co

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Ethan>Leo. Ethan put up NUMBERS on initiator, especially during champs if my memory serves

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Coures

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now he's a professional at missing lineups on kayo and wasting util like Christmas candy

his numbers came from healing demon1 to get assists I'm convinced

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C0co

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im more talking about his kayo, but I agree with your point. Leo has been far more consistently top tier

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ChrisGG

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Leo has put better numbers and in literally every event he has played for like 3 years tho

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ChrisGG

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Like it’s hard to find one bad tournament from Leo

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Copenhagen?

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ahdd

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mb he's doing good in Copenhagen stats wise