It is not even yay’s fault

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Sure yay isn’t anywhere close to where he was at in 2022, but legija is the reason why bleed is so ass. Legija is the biggest fraud in franchising.

Edit: To clarify I am saying that it isn’t yay’s fault why bleed look so bad, but instead it is the coaching staff and the team in general. However, I believe that yay with a better team or even coaching staff would look better. Not amazing, but he would be better.

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thanks for the input mCe

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yep, another braindead excuse. They're paying him insane amounts to perform and he's not doing that but it's not his fault ofc

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I should’ve clarified, but I am saying why it isn’t yay’s fault why bleed is bad. The whole team especially coaching staff needs to step it up.

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no, it's yay's fault, bleed was playing beautiful valorant before that fraud joined

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+1,and who got benched,

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nah a lot of their games were just guy diffs

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amedy

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actually true

idk why these studs downvote you when it's factual, bozos will cope that y0y is still a good player when he's more washed than my bedsheets

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braindead? are you pretending to live in a world where bleed has a good team setup??

bleed literally had an implosion after two games between egoist/crazyguy and sscary

yay although part of it wasnt leading either faction within the team. braindead is an insane way to describe this post

almost no players in this world would put up amazing numbers in this bleed team. someone like aspas prob could, but thats the goat of valorant, you cant blame yay for not trumping an entire broken team

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so then why buy a player worth that much lol? why yay take the offer lol? because he thought he'd be able to perform but he can't. Yeah yay cant put up numbers that why im saying hes dog shit. When BLEED were losing they blamed coaching for not putting yay of comfortable roles, they put him on good roles and he still doesnt perform. This yay player simply is not good and even if we went back to NA franchising he'd be a mid player and thats fact.

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okay but thats not even the argument ballsa was making. just that this shit team didnt fail because of yay but that there are other more important factors which failed.

and yay took the offer because he got paid that much, idk why bleed signed him but they did and they gave him a bag, pretty obvious he took it for money rather than because he thought theyd win champs or something

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i actually think it's not entirely true that they imploded

my theory is that it's a fake story that the management decided to make up and paid crazyguy to say those things as an excuse to leave and sign z0st.

the bond that the team formed during ascention was basically brothers, fucking managers that got in the way because they wanted to get the money from 2 famous washed bots (yay and zest)

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why in the cinnamon toast fuck would an org pay one of their former employees to say shit about them that would undoubtedly harm their reputation

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amedy

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are you braindead? it makes sense, it's an excuse to dismantle their core (like c9 dropping y0y for "role issues", except everyone saw thru the lies back then and for some reason have decided to be delulu now and believe the stupid narrative), and that way the hardcore fans like me don't get mad at the org, except i and a few others have seen the truth.

seriously it doesn't take a genius to realize that it's a fake narrative

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_amBrian

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If the "role issues" excuse on c9 didn't work for them, why would anyone think blatant displays of superstar favoritism would work?

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amedy

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bro im not gonna argue with a zeta fan

washed team, full of baiters. have fun losing all the games

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You: starts losing the argument "ew zeta fan". Do you know how pathetic you sound rn? At least argue your point to the end instead of insulting others. If you really think yay is the problem, then defend that point to the end, unless you know you are wrong.

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i have better things to do than argue with a dude in a valorant forum. time will prove that yay is actually just another washed chamber abuser and z0st career is over.

also looking thru your profile it's clear that you have a mental deficiency for understanding valorant, so it's no use arguing with a bot like yourself

flag + flair, ratio

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i find it funny reading the word "time will prove" dude hasn't been performing for almost 2 years now LMAO how much time will people give him

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Lmao you think I have a deficiency in understanding valorant? I have had so many based takes and you wouldn't be able to determine that from my post history because I gave up being serious on this site a year ago. Also you weren't arguing with me. You're just being a pussy because you know you are wrong and that's why you don't want to counter when other people give valid arguments against your claims. Unless you would like to prove me wrong? But you probably won't, based on your post history on this thread. Perhaps you have a mental deficiency?

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Not the Bleed fan calling another team washed baiters 😭😭😭

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yay was better tho on c9 and still had glimpses of his optic self but that all was gone when he went down in teammate quality and coach quality

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I like this, upvoted!

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nothing can save yay now, his best one trick agent is chamber and he hates playing chamber apparently so hes detrimenting himself, if he played chamber on lotus and put deryeon on raze then maybe they would be better

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Their lotus was horrible… even ranked mixes have put more util to prevent the t side from taking rubble… icebox started all right then they just shut down… I’d have preferred they just a exec’d the entire half

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yy has been shit for 2 fucking years at some point you need to start thinking if its not just the player

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hibiki123

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my guy lost confident about himself that's the real problem

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Ballsamolee

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Yes. Especially with hate everywhere he has zero confidence, and he has a lot of pressure put on him to perform well. He should also stop reading these forums too lol.

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after nrg, he is gone.any team who are setup around one player supported by players ,that player will have hard time in adapting in different teams.look at asuna how he was playing when he was supported in early 100T days ,that's not same now even he is on duelist.yay is avg player individually.

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true, but also bad comparison with asuna. He was only good when the pro scene was at a low level in general. He's been mid/bad for a looong time. 100t also know they can't support him as a superstar because he isn't one.

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bro compared one of the greatest players of all time with yay

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amedy

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even skrossi would be better than y0y

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y0y

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Yay_Defender

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Shut the FUCK up.

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yay alt

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y0y

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dapada

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C9, and then DSG, now BLEED, until when this excuse will work?

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was clearly held back on both c9 and dsg.

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he was fine on c9

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Vegaaa

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he was, and if they kept yay c9 wouldve still been insane, possibly better than they were. literally beat prx, then lost 1-2 to drx.

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tbf, prx that time wasnt even close to prx at tokyo or the current prx, no something and benchkai was there

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y0y

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Put him on senti, maybe senti/jett.

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I am a huge Yay fan but his performances have been inexcusable for a while now. I don't think we will ever get to see him dominate again, Bleed will definitely go winless like DFM last year. Their inability to take rubble control on both attacking and defending on lotus shows you how incredibly rubbish this team is.

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Bleed has already won 1 match it's GE which will go winless

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avenger50000

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What? When? In pre-season? That doesn't count. And GE defeated BLEED in kickoff so they aren't winless in the season. I am a huge GE hater and it pained me to say this.

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Uribaba

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Nvm they only won 1 map

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avenger50000

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It's just sad.

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yay has honestly been playing ok on bleed so far, not good but he has done his job initiating and creating space on maps, he just hasn't had an insane performance and the team has a lot of issues

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Darkhunter

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is this mce alt on vlr??? is this you mce...

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yay isnt playing bad, but not in the tier he was. Instead of being compared to texture and something, or saya and jemkin, or even meiy, he is more on that polvi level right now. IMO duelist yay is still not the best option.

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y0y is the goat, It's never his fault