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Why doesn't riot do bracket resets?

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#1
harbringerOFpain

Most logical way to deal with grand finals in a double elimination bracket. Are riot brains infected by chinese overlords?

#2
Coures
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You can't have the two BO5 in a single day, so what they're gonna do another opening ceremony and open up another round of tickets? Ok maybe give tickets to those who were there the first game. But maybe some of them can only be there for a single day?

just ufcking stupid when the b05s take so long

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harbringerOFpain
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Have you considered that the slaves should play longer for my entertainment?

#6
ShuGo
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no need cause we own Vietnam anyways πŸ˜‚

#8
harbringerOFpain
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America doesn't even own America anymore πŸ‘½πŸ‘½πŸ‘½πŸ‘½πŸ‘½πŸ‘½

#9
simo98
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Wait this guy doesn't know πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

#3
Coures
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logistics DISASTA CLASS

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Denjisideals
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I am NOT watching 14 hours of valorant in a single day. No one is.

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Xplodd
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The lower bracket team having to play bo5 on back to back days and having to play more games overall is punishment enough. Not to mention the double map ban from upper bracket team, which I don’t think some people understand how insane of an advantage it is

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justo
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his brain probably thought of this because those lower bracket upsets. I agree they do not understand how bad from a prep and performance standpoint it looks to lose with that double veto advantage

#10
_amBrian
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imagine a series this long but twice

#11
harbringerOFpain
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Simpleβ€”remove breaks between maps, tech pauses, timeouts, reduce time between rounds

Essentially cut the fat from production.

Competitive integrity is paramount.

#12
_amBrian
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Ok this has to be bait

This would just make the players want to kill themselves

#14
LimiNaL
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Yippie

#15
Targu1n
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I actually dont outright mind the idea of a bracket reset since it does fix some issues
Multiple coaches at this point have commented on the fact that a rematch (on even grounds) favors the loser since it is easier to fix mistakes and anti than it is to predict how your opponent is going to adapt to your gameplan (imo mainly the fact that often times the winner already showed their anti is the main advantage for the loser)

And theres the semi major problem that finals are played in a completely different format. Bo5s just play out different to Bo3s and different teams are good at them. I find it hard to judge how big of an effect this ends up having, it is however a potential problem for the current format.

BUT adding a bracket reset creates so many problems that I just dont think it would be viable to switch. On one hand bracket reset means bo3 finals (2 bo5s in a day is too much and splitting the finals into 2 days would just create the problems the current format had again). From a competitive integrity standpoint I dont think bo3s are too bad (above point) however the hype aspect just dies. The grand finals being a 2 map series would be the most anti-climatic way to end an international.

Its also just boring tbh. Realistically both teams will want to play the same maps again and the only way we get a different map pool is via bans. In a then exclusively bo3 format where perma bans are incredibly viable these bans could very well be set in stone already. Teams wont have fun anti/set plays ready for the second round either since they have to show everything in the first round.

Tldr: bracket reset (bo3) could be interesting but creates bigger problems than it fixes

#16
vollizie
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Bracket resets would work for Bo3s, but not for Bo5s. Now, me personally, I prefer single Bo5 over a Bo3 bracket reset. In general, I don't like bracket resets for Tactical First-Person Shooters because of the map pools and longer games. Love them for fighting games, Rocket League, and MOBAs though.

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