UNBIASED NRG vs SEN

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ArtemisZ083

Demon1=Zekken, Demon1 has more exp and slightly better mechanics, but he can only play jett, which is a big disadvantage, so they are equal.
Victor>Johnqt(Sentinel) gotta give this to him, he is a better sentinel, but its close.
Johnqt>Ethan(Igl), John is a better igl what can i even say.
Marved=Tenz, Marved has more experience, but Tenz has better mechanics
Zellsis=Crashies, idk they seem pretty equal, though crashies needs to up his game

The matchup no matter what Sen or NRG fans say, is pretty equal, NRG has a slight advantage that they have played less, but Sentinels can use it as their advantage too(changing strats, comps)
It can go anyway, personally supporting SEN but tried to make it as unbiased as possible. Gl to both teams, may the best team win!!(open to suggestions)

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Johnqt clears Victor anyday wtf. Victor is an average sentinel lmao. Tenz > marved as well cus rn in form tenz is owning everyone in the controller while marved is getting carried

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prime example of what i meant its actually concerning how stupid you are. tenz looked like a baboon facing loud, tuyzz hard diffed him and ur taking him over marved?

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Orangepanda

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tenz looked like a baboon

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kalayav_n

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am i wrong bro? the guy was in chat crying about util buddy couldn't do shit

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Orangepanda

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💯 correct

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TheAceGamer30

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Tuyz diffed him are u stupid?

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kalayav_n

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you probably watch games thru tiktok highlights and or sit and scroll thru the vlr stats. maybe watch the ascent game for a change, tuyz controlled the game, and herded sentinels around the map like sheep. mfs got bullied off one side of the map at one point i remember. tenz cant do that, and the sad part is you cant teach that shit either

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ArtemisZ083

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On ascent tenz got diffed but on split i think Tenz was good no? He played well

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kalayav_n

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split he played very well but the problem is he really can't "PLAY" omen. sen have weird flex comps where tenz goes from duelist to controller to initiator which is good in someways but also very bad. when you play 1 certain role, overtime you develop natural instincts and habits that you can't really develop changing agents once in a while. it showed on ascent and wouldve probably shown on the third map as well.

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ArtemisZ083

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Check out Sentinels vid on "Why TenZ on omen makes sense", The only reason I put marved and TenZ equal is because TenZ has much better mechanical skill.

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kalayav_n

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1st off no thanks, why would a team leak its own gameplan and reasoning, they bullshitted in that video to get views and get money. 2nd how incapable are you again of understanding roles, with the same logic BLEED YAY> LESS on viper because better mechanical skills? there is role intelligence, game sense and understanding of positioning which all marved clears in. sure ya boy can hit a couple clips but in the end of the day he cannot out perform the best controllers.

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Controller characters demand a wider understanding of the game other than just mechanical prowess, but people that only value stats and clips will say otherwise.

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TheAceGamer30

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Overall tenz actually diffed tuyz look at the stats

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kalayav_n

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nice map win for sentinels

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Tuyz did not diff Tenz 💀

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ArtemisZ083

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I just realised how wrong you are check the stats of loud vs sentinels, tuyz killed TenZ 1 time and got killed by him 7 times dude...

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ArtemisZ083

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I think as a sentinel main, victor understands the role better than Johnqt, johnqt isnt fullly in the role as he is igling as well. Tenz owns marved yes(in a 1v1), but marved is much more experienced. It would be unfair to put Tenz better for controller, as controller isnt all abt mechanics.

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kalayav_n

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tenz only plays omen on certain maps, he isn't even the best controller on his own team lmao

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victor "bilibili" wong

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More evidence why I should mute any conversations involving you. How have you managed to ruin my day twice with your god awful takes within the space of 5 minutes???

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TheAceGamer30

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What happened to you supporting drx 💀

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stopped reading after "Demon1=Zekken"

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ArtemisZ083

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Demon1 has better mechanics but playing only jett is a huge disadvantage! you saw what happened to aspas in split right? Raze diffs jett in tight maps, and SENTINELS will definitely ban breeze or ascent(in their 2nd turn, as they permaban icebox)

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worst explanation ever

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Orangepanda

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Worst comparison after midnyet vs JINGGG

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I think marved is better than TenZ solely becuz he not only is a site anchor but an excellent lurker, something TenZ doesn't do, but John does.

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Velocity23

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So i can say Tenz is a better aggressive player? How does that make marved “better” than Tenz

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Demon1 is just a better jett than Zekken and his op is better but i think zekken will diff him at the end of the series(Zekken's form is actually insane rn)
JohnQt clears Victor mechanically imo
If Tenz is inform he clears Marved rn
Crashies>Zellsis anyday tbh
Sacy will be a big factor for SEN i think if he is in a good day they will probably win
Also Ethan best support player in the world imo

The matchup is actually too close and Chet is actually an antistrat coach so they will study SEN good but generally SEN retakes are insane at this point and their protocols etc.

I think its actually a 60/40 favoring NRG just cause SEN played too many matches but as i said if Sacy keeps his form(he has proven that he is a big game player) i think SEN will win a close 2-1

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ArtemisZ083

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Okay so Everyone thinks Demon1 is better than Zekken. I have no doubt that Demon1 Jett diffs zekken, but Raze is much better on Bind, split, Sunset than Jett. Thats the only reason i put Zekken on the same level. Kaplan will only let one map go through from Ascent or Breeze (probably ascent). As a jett you just dont bring as much value as raze on bind and split.
TenZ= Marved, Marved has much more experience as controllers, but as a whole unit, game sense, comms, mechanics, Tenz is better than Marved. Thts why i put them as equal. I would suggest people to watch, "Why TenZ on omen makes sense" Its a great video, and great production too. Its not that long either. TenZ omen is a different type of controller. He is more agressive, which if he wasnt he would be wasting his Mechanical skill. So , TenZ = MARVED

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victor plays raze, demon1 plays astra lmao im just convinced you guys think demon1 = jett thats it. but fairplay maybe this humbling loss to nrg will teach you some lessons

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ArtemisZ083

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Bro who in their right mind will switch up the roles so drastically on a new roster!! Sentinel on duelist, and duelist on smokes. taking this much risk would be stupidity, nd im comparing Zekken and Demon1 only as duelists

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kalayav_n

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this is how i know you don't watch any matches, if only you knew that victor 2023 played raze on bind and split while ardiss switched over to kayo. For demon1 hes played brimstone, astra on fracture bind and split. BUT i dont expect anything less than tiktok highlights knowledge from a sen fan.

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ArtemisZ083

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Bro Ardiss isnt on the roster anymore, plus would you honestly take such a risk? TikTok is banned in India bruv i watch all the matches live.COMPARING ZEKKEN AND DEMON1 ONLY AS DUELISTS BRUV, why are you bringing in the whole roster???

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kalayav_n

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Banning tiktok is a huge W congrats, Ardiss isn't on NRG but demon1 is who can flex and switch roles for victor, EG: victor(raze), demon1(brim/astra). Why am i bringing their whole rosters into the debate because a team consists and works with 5.

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ArtemisZ083

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Okay victor is on duelist, demon 1 on controller, considering its bind you will need viper, so marved/crashies on viper. Now from the two players left who will play sentinels and initiator? You just switched the whole roster bro. Do you think almost everyone being off their main, is a good decision?

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kalayav_n

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you dont play sentinel on bind but ill give you the benefit of the doubt that you got it mistaken for split. 2 controllers 1 duelist 1 initator 1 sentinel. (marved, demon1 controllers) (victor duelist) (ethan initator) (crashies sentinel). This is off the bat assuming they don't ban split and or demon1 doesnt say f it and plays jett regardless.

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zekken>demon1, zekkens raze is way better than demon1s astra or victors raze so regardless of who u compare him to zekken takes it (sen will ban icebox first pick and breeze/ascent secoond pick so it will be max 1 jett map in this bo3)
john>victor, in terms of a pure sentinel john is clear of victor and its not particularly close, victor is a very good flex, but in this cypher heavy meta, john provides more as a sentinel is pretty much neccesary on every map.
tenz>marved, marved has been quite underwhelming throughout this kickoff meanwhile tenz has looked great on every map bar ascent vs loud probably, tenz also provides way more fragging power
sacy<ethan, sacy is playing great rn but ethan is probably the second best support player behind leo rn
zellsis<crashies this is not really a debate really, sure zellsis provides vibes and leadership, but in terms of pure gameplay crashies clears.
john>ethan (igling) in terms of igling john has far more experience and ethan is barely even igling from what i heard of the nrg comms vid its just everyone making calls and sometimes u need to have one guy who is able to make the final call and i dont think ethan is at that level.

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ArtemisZ083

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W

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That is not what the stats say

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ArtemisZ083

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lets not compare stats when nrg is playing shitty teams like clown 9 and furia

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chauste

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crashies canyons zellsis

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spritelover52

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i agree demon1 > zekken, but he does not have more experience

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I think crashies is overrated but zellsis=crashies is one of the dumbest shit I've ever seen

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TheAceGamer30

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Tenz yoru Masterclass trust

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xelto1

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100000th unbiased sen vs NRG thread