Liquid just downgrading

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Flumplestiltski

-Sayf has marginally worse opping then Cned and his rifle was top 3 in EMEA
-Redgar has been worse mechanically than his prime and his calls were pretty average but Enzo was playing T2 were there was only 1-2 other decent teams still a big gamble imo
-Soulcas is straight up worse than mistic I actually really like this move and really like mistic
-Nats is obviously still great, not in his prime but still S/A tier sentinel in T1
-Jamppi is a good player I just hope his contract isn't too big since he did have a lot of hype and has never really lived up to it. He's just good and occasionally has a great game.

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number1_cned_hater

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Nah bro enzo is goated let him cook

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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so how is this downgrading? VLR brain

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Flumplestiltski

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2 of the 3 moves r bad?
EU brain

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Valgod

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Enzo is an upgrade
Whoever comes to replace soulcas is an upgrade
And sayf is not that much better than cned mechanically, his main advantage is his flexibility. Also cned won't be beefing with his igl, causing drama

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Sayf = cNed
Redgar = Enzo
Soulcas <<<< Mistic

Enzo is a proven T1 player aswell and he was leading the 2nd best team in EMEA T2
cNed Is similar in terms of opping, his rifling is worse but im sure they will work it out

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no freaking way you said "sayf = cNed", sayf clears him so hard
and i believe that enzo could be the best igl in emea, so in terms of future plans, enzo >> redgar
and... yes, even my 2 months old sister clears botcas

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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cned performed better in champs no?

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they both played 2 games at champs moron sayf was like the entire reason liquid wasn't 0-9 in league lmfao

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Navi played 3 games moron

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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look sayf carried liquids ass in league but cned is a more proven LAN player. also sayf had conflicts here and there.

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Flumplestiltski

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Enzo is a proven T1 player, but that was also 1.5 years ago and he wasn't IGLing. I don't think he is bad to be think he still has the mechanical and gained the IGL capabilities in that time to be great in T1 is a gamble 100%.
Sayf is wayyy better than Cned bro:
Flexibility: Sayf>>>>>>Cned
OP: Sayf<Cned
Rifle: Sayf>>>Cned
Comms: Sayf>>>Cned
Brain: Sayf>>>Cned
Utility: Sayf:>>>>Cned

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mon471

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Global Esports took the deepest downgrade by letting go of the goat SKRossi

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Congo1

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Well this is a wrong way of looking at it. Apparently TL players didnt mesh well together so splitting them up makes sense. The only downgrade is losing Sayf but a team is so much more than just 5 individuals. If we were going by that only then EG shouldnt have been even close to winning champs this year.

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PunisherXPR

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Exactly. And it was Sayf's decision to leave, according to rumors. Can't really say "Liquid just downgrading" when it wasn't even their decision to drop him.

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Bog

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Sayf >>> cned/keiko
Enzo >> Redgar
Mistic > Soulcas

Emil had to leave too

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Itsover

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Sayf is mid, cNed is mid as well tho, should have got d3ffo.

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Now that redgar is gone I would just beg Sayf to come back

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CherryCoke

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aint gonna lie

my favorite eu team is liquid because i am old and played sc2

this team is worse than last year.

imagine thinking mistic is the answer...

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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez

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that's true they getting worse every year

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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez

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They should've built around Sayf and Nats and booted the rest of em. this can be the only way they can win some international trophies

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CoCloudy

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how high of a chance is it that cned is joining liquid?

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Valgod

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I'd say it's ~60%