this, even halo's movement at that time was rapid & considered to be the best. I also remember vividly quake or 1.6 players calling csgo, as a child game for noobs when it came out since they took out all the hard parts of it. Its ironic that csgo fans do the same for valorant now when they dont realize just how much their game has been nerfed.
I heard shroud say that strategically, valorant is way harder than CSGO cuz everything stays basically the same for years whereas with val, there are map specific dynamics, meta comps,info-initiators which add to more complex defaults.constant nerfs n buffs to agents, etc.
He didn't say all that exactly, I added the specifics, shroud said just the 1st part
imo if overwatch esports dies the needle gets moved a bit here when apac gets swarmed with the current generation of cracked out overwatch players in their prime instead of the older generation that were kind of washed when they switched (shout out saya who was benched in OWL but managed to run house through NA and APAC)
I mean I can think of a few. Depends on how you justify failed. There is a few I would say probably would be classed as failed but they were also fucking washed (or not very good to start with) overwatch players. E.G. Nus, SanSam. I think the only one that you could claim didn't achieve anything in val (long term) but was a top overwatch pro in a relevant position is probably soon, unkoe and neptuno. But then again for someone like neptuno do you really count getting the bag and placing 2nd in vlr spain at 31 years of age to be failing
carpe was strait up the difference maker as to why they qualified for masters and champs and thats in his 1st season playing the game. Man went from not playing the game to flexing over like 5 agents and 2 bloody roles. Also he's really only underperformed at champs. Doesn't matter how he got the spot your trippin if you think he doesn't diff the other options
valorant and cs are not that mechanically demanding, it's not even the main point of the game, it's a tactical FPS, yes you do need to be mechanically skilled and have your crosshair placement on point to be at the very top but the whole point of the game is to be a team shooter where you use tactics to create a disadvantageous fight for your opponent
quake/UT, even games like TF2 and OW are much more about the mechanical aspect of the game but UT/quake are just prime examples because you need to be good at everything, you don't just "main widowmaker or sniper". from projectiles to hitscan (both tracking and flicking), movement, including projectile boosting and trick/circlestrafing and if you play duel you also need to time at least 2 items (red armor and megahealth) in your head while you're fighting and repositioning on the map
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