icebox sentinels

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edtheking12

i dont get why sen isnt changing their icebox comp. its clear that darp is fucking ass on sova, so why arent they moving shahz on sova. its cool seeing shahz play jett, but like come on, dapr might be the worst sova na and him playing killjoy instead of sova might even be better

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agreed
dapr - sage
sick - raze
tenz - jett
zombs - viper
shahz - sova

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I have a question tho. I know sick gamesense is probably one of the best if not the best on Sentinels. He's also a crazy good flex player and can bring to the table whatever agent his teams needs. But is he a GOOD and dedicated Raze (like nukkye, bunny for example)? When I say a good and dedicated raze I don't mean if he is able to score good numbers in the stats with the agent, I mean if he actually knows how to start entry strategies onto sites, if he knows how to use his satchels OPTIMALLY according to the map he's playing (Icebox in this case), as well as using optimally his nades and ults.
Because if he is, then this is a perfect change to the comp on Icebox. If not, then I don't think it's going to help.

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It would be his first time using it on icebox, so he would be pretty lost probably.

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he might not be as good as raze on other maps but his bind raze is top tier

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i mean i would expect them to at least practice the comp beforehand so he would know his role more, so it could work knowing how versatile sick is

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sick reyna may be better,

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lol dapr is actually the worse sova NA, because he barely plays sova

pretty sure he only connected with 1 shockdart that whole match

seems like he only knows a few lineups and SEN looked like they wanted to lose, once I saw dapr on sova again i thought it would be over, just didn't know it would be that quick, pretty damn embarassing

only way SEN doesn't become a meme is if they win berlin, but if they lose berlin then lose champions after I don't see that SEN team staying together very long

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They are kind a hinting in champions they will play with sinatra as a 6 man team

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yana-banana

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Sinatraa's response
Shahzam's response

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I know i'm gonna get downfragged for this but i really do think they're hiding something on icebox, dapr on sova seems like a downright troll to me

(if this is really their best on icebox.... they might wanna consider banning it or at least making drastic changes, bc it's awful)

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they're gonna put tenz on jett for sure

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THEhunter

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they wont shaz is too good on icebox with jett

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True, historically, Dapr has only played Sova three times in pro play.

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i’ve thought about this for a bit but what if they went
tenz: reyna/jett
shahz: sova
sick: skye (heals and flashes)
dapr: killjoy
zombs: viper
i know sentinels have this thing where they would need 2 duelist for the game, but what if sick played skye as a duelist? skye has flashes and can basically entry along with reyna/jett. Plus skye dog can be used to clear corners along with the sova dart.

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skye is kinda bad on icebox and no sage=no bomb plant on b

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not true 100t make it work

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its because they use omen too(to cover more angles) , but if you say Envy also doing better without sage because they did not played a better team so far in the tournament who are great on icebox so cant say

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sproutbeans

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unfortunately every wall in valorant seems to be wall-bangable. if (perhaps tenz) is able to push into B site fast enough, i think the plant can go smoothly. 100t seemed to have made sure B site plant area was cleared (flanked mid into B/sometimes just managed to kill those on B site even if they come from B long/ yellow) before they progressed with the plant. Maybe it just comes down to gun fights to get B site lol.

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they need a sage especially on icebox

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THEhunter

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Guys g2 are better at icebox that doesn't mean sentinels are bad . its just a bad day for them . Sentinels Main advantage is not their comp(Comp Matters but speaking of their advantage) they rely more on duals they were not hitting any shots in first halfs of both maps yesterday thats it. I think this loss might make them monsters again

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I think their comp was fine, they've barely lost icebox before the G2 games, i just think that G2 anti-strat Sentinels very well while SEN was not reading G2 properly.

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ItsOnlyAGame

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Their icebox not that good

SEN also lost to Soniqs on icebox (out-stratted if you saw the match) and SQ isn't even a tier 1. 5 team

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ciro

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Their Ascent is pretty much just as bad, they even lost to RISE on that map

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THEhunter

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BBG(0 tier team ) out-stratted sentinels this means BBG better than world champions . WTH are u talking bro Single map loss doesn't mean their map is bad . They won Icebox against so many good teams like Envy X-SET . they have 78% win rate on Icebox . Single loss doesn't mean their map is bad

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THEhunter

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Agreed g2 were reading better but even if they read it doesn't matter cause SEN were not winning their duals dude.

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ciro

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SEN should not depend on aim duels because EU is just mechanically better than NA, NA has to out strat EU every time

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THEhunter

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if Icebox is weak map for sentinels then why do no other NA team in the challengers picked Icebox(Even 100T did not pick Icebox against SEN after all its 100T second best map after ASCENT ) , its because Icebox is one of the strong map of SEN . Loosing 2 games of Icebox to a same Team, that doesn't mean they are bad and they have to change their comp .

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Ascent and icebox are their weak maps ,haven and split are their strongest maps
Explanation why 100t didn’t pick icebox is that they wanted to save their icebox I.e is why they did not pick ice box against xset even though it was such an important series.Told by Asuna
Now in the envy match up 100t banned bind so if the series went 3-2 all 5 maps are played other than bind
Now in the sen finals: SEN ban Ascent; 100T pick Bind; SEN pick Breeze; 100T pick Haven; SEN pick Split; Icebox remains.
In the sen upper finals matchup : SEN ban Ascent; 100T ban Bind; SEN pick Split; 100T pick Haven; SEN pick Breeze.

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RickyIndian

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This is a tough question to answer. Shaz is sooooooooo good on icebox that their entire team revolves around it at some points. For example in the first Fnatic match in reyjavik where he had like 21 kills at the end of the half. dapr is just going to have to push through it and get better at him

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THEhunter

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Shaz icebox jett is too good dude . dapr has to get better at Sova I mean he is not bad but still he has to work on it

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yungbasel

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Sick - Reyna
Tenz - Jett
Shaz - Sova
zombs - Viper
Dapr - Sage.

But tbh, rather than this, They're better off banning it.