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Concerns about Team Secret's Representation of the

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MaTrix96

I just realized how TS's selection process raises concerns of nepotism, with the team manager being Jessievash's wife, and the boomers appear to be long time best friends in the previous games that they played. I did a little research and I realized that fans have been seeking better representation of Filipino talent since their Bren Esports days in Challengers 2021 splits.

I also noticed that Invy, the newest recruit, seems to be performing relatively better than the rest of the team. This raises questions about how talent is being evaluated and chosen for the roster. As someone who wants to see the PH represented at the highest level in Valorant, it's concerning to see that Team Secret's performance has been underwhelming in international competitions, especially when other teams have successfully integrated Filipino players.

I hope that TS hopefully will consider evaluating talent objectively and prioritize representing the best players from PH instead to achieve better results in future tournaments. Open discussions and transparency can lead to positive changes for the team and the region's Valorant scene. Just my two cents fellow lil bros. All love.

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LyCan52
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allat break it down to 8 words

#3
garbage_man
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PH scene runs on nepotisim, needs urgent change.

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MaTrix96
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It's not uncommon tho. I think India had that kind of problem in their government like with the politics before.

#10
4rrowlol
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Nepotism exists everywhere sadly

That being said what the fuck does the Indian government have to do with Filipino valorant

#12
MaTrix96
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I was just giving an example of nepotism and this is one of the few things I learned in economics and history lil bro

#11
LyCan52
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thx for explanation 😃

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MaTrix96
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TLDR: TS's selection process raises concerns of nepotism, with the team manager being Jessievash's wife, and Jessievash related to Jremy. Fans have been seeking better representation of Filipino talent since 2021.

I tried to shorten it as much as I can lmao.

#6
LyCan52
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isn't that invy related to vash?

#8
MaTrix96
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Oh I'm not sure buddy but I confirmed that Vash's wife is the country manager of TS, Vash is also Jremy's uncle, and the 3 core have been best friends for a couple of years even in previous games before.

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LyCan52
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yeah I think 3 of them were together in cs as well

#73
ShuGo
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Isn’t Jremy playing well too though? I don’t think he should be replaced

#14
garbage_man
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At this point, TS is a family business. Just like...

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MaTrix96
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Like???

#45
garbage_man
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might get banned so nahhhh

#46
MaTrix96
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Gotta yolo in here lil bro

#7
Warlordwibz
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every player on TS r on 4 year contracts too (2026). EZ franchise salary.

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MaTrix96
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Damn really 2026? Them homies secured the bag more than anything lmao

#26
Warlordwibz
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36yo Jessievash dropping 36 elims every game

#68
MaTrix96
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He kinda plays good sometimes

#15
zefanyaa
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I had no idea how Witz and dispenser got dropped but I think that's a good decision. However, Jessie said on the stream that the way they select a player is each player gives 3 names and conduct a trial for the play that got majority votes.

#17
MaTrix96
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So I could be like: my dad, my lil bro, and my cousin?

#18
LyCan52
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basically 3 family member names and whoever plays valorant gets selected

#16
Valgod
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JessieWashed is better than zekken imo

#20
MaTrix96
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Wait zekken is filipino?

#27
makoidk
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zekken and cryo

#35
MaTrix96
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Damn NA's best besides yay and my goat d3mon1

#19
Simp4S0m
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JessieVash is related to Jremy? Wow

#63
noodlesforlife7
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Nope it was just an inside joke last year, jremy stayed at jessievash's house because he was underage and doesn't live in Manila.

#64
Simp4S0m
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Bruh I thought it was real 💀

#21
garbage_man
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Just realized jremy and invy used to be teammates also. At least Invy grind his way up with Oasis while Jremy got signed straight away.

#22
MaTrix96
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Oh I didn't get this on my research awhile ago lol. Thanks for this! o7

#23
MaTrix96
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Wait what do you mean got signed right away?

#24
garbage_man
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No one really knew who jremy was (at least in my case, I did not know him at that time) when TS announced him. Might be wrong tho.

#25
unknown_trash
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if this is real and it is nepotism, then this could be quite serious. riot wouldnt want a team that just keeps the same roster (but of course riot really only wants money from franchising so...)

#55
samhatts
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Riot gives the teams money so they have 100% control over the franchise league. Their goal is to get as many eyes on valorant as possible so people play the game and most importantly buy skins. If they wanted TS to change they could

#29
makoidk
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ok but jremy is literally not even related to jessie

i am preeetty sure that those are just memes

#31
EttedoSolemn
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Jremy is JcVash nephew

#34
makoidk
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is that actually for real though

#38
Lyze
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No hahaha its just a meme same way with rabbet during hashira

#42
makoidk
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cant believe i got baited in 2023

#43
EttedoSolemn
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hhahaha you got baited by lyze

#30
AllenVLR
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as far as I can see from VCT PH most of the tier 2 teams are mid, only the current secret roster is at the top right npw.

#37
Moiraine
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a team can be bad but one of their players could be really good
No one said to change whole secret team but you can surely find upgrades in the scene. Even very bad teams can have very good player(s)

#32
EternalXera
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But arent dispenser and witz good friends with jessie aswell? I do see your point about nepotism but Im not really sure its 100% the reason on why these players were picked

#33
zdraugnaV
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While Team Secret is still a good team, I believe they could improve so much. PH got the deepest (I said deepest not best) talent pool in Pacific.

#61
MaTrix96
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I just noticed there's a lot of filipino imports in SA qualifiers damn

#74
ShuGo
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South America?

#36
derptz
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JREMY not really related to Jessievash.

#39
MaTrix96
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Update: jremy didn't undergo tryouts. Jremy's previous coach retrac endorsed jremy to team secret (since they were good friends with vash and his wife, and the rest).

#40
Yessirskiiii
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Midtrix copying my threads 😡

#41
MaTrix96
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Yo chill, you're my smurf acc

#44
LyCan52
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bro has smurf accounts on vlr 💀

#47
WinterZ20
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wait nah theres no fucking way Jremy is related to Vash 💀💀

where did u find that out cuz I cant seem to find anything relating to that anywhere

#48
MaTrix96
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It's all over their personal facebook. Filipinos use Facebook a lot and they post almost about anything and everything via Facebook. We also have nice friends from the Filipino valo community and ppgl to confirm a couple of things as well. They're so friendly!

#49
WinterZ20
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ion hv a fb acc so i couldntve found that

if possible could u pls send me the link to one of their posts?

#50
ncahlil
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Me when I purposely spread misinformation

#51
MaTrix96
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Typical person who would rather settle for nepotism over competency lmao but I love you still lil bro!

#52
ncahlil
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When did I say I'd prefer nepotism over competency lil bro???? I was implying that jremy and vash are not related so idk what you're on LOL. And as far as i know, people were only memeing when they're saying vash is jremy's uncle. I'd like to be proven wrong tho.

#53
ncahlil
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Its funny when you assumed that I'd prefer nepotism over competency when i literally replied to your comment that didn't mention anything about nepotism, and only about them being related.

#54
MaTrix96
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End of the day the point is TS prefers and favors relatives, friends, or associates. That's the point lil bro.

#56
acels2
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thats literally how networking works lil bro

#58
MaTrix96
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While networking is also important in esports, merit-based selection remains crucial for fair and high quality competition. Emphasizing skill and talent ensures the best players represent their regions like TS in PH, promoting growth and diversity in the scene. Too lazy to explain but here's a few points to take note of lil bro:

  • Compromises competitive integrity
  • Undermines merit-based selection
  • Denies opportunities to deserving players
  • Affects team performance negatively
  • Creates a negative image for the organization
  • Hinders diversity and inclusion efforts.
#60
acels2
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not really, other teams are free to pick up good players if TS dont want them

#57
ncahlil
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I get your point lil bro, I totally agree with you, but next time get your facts right so you don't misinform others lol

#59
MaTrix96
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I'd post the same thing if I got the chance to re-do yesterday lil bro. You can create your own post with your own opinion and your "facts", I think that'd be great. Love you lil bro.

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noodlesforlife7
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Jessievash and Jremy are not related lmao. It's just a joke running around since last year because Jremy stayed at Jessievash's house during qualifiers because he doesn't live in Manila which is in Luzon and he lives in Visayaz so Jessievash was like a tito or a father figure to him.

#65
MaTrix96
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End of the day, it doesn't change the fact that they have a nepotism issue. Jremy didn't undergo a tryout and was referred directly by his previous coach retract because they were good friends with the clique. But if you're okay being represented by this type of roster then I guess that's okay, it's the "best of Philippines' representation" anyways.

#66
melon_fan
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Wait that’s crazy

#67
MaTrix96
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Nah

#69
Ullyr
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Bump

#70
Dawn4k
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God damm the nepotism run deeper than indonesian presidential election

#71
gaeul
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it's been 8 months and i still agree to whatever this is (i didn't read it) but i know its true

#72
x4v
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seeing their performances from 2021 champions til now i can only say riot chose them for franchising because the org is well known in other esports titles.

#75
HongEunchae
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i agree with whatever u said (i bet on secret start of this year and lost it all)

#76
_amBrian
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yoshiii is right there bros, get him off scarz please

#77
MaTrix96
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I thought the dude is japanese?

#79
_amBrian
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Mixed Japanese/Filipino. Idk if he speaks any Tagalog but I think the TS members can all speak English so it wouldn't be that much of a problem.

#81
MaTrix96
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TS players speak local I think

#84
rosso4000
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yes so does yoshiii, he can atleast speak bisaya as far i know

#78
Skuh271
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I've been a fan of TS since champions 2021 and they inspired me to play valorant since then. I just want to see them play on internation stage again man and as a die hard TS fan this shit is just frustrating 💀

#82
x4v
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yes. was a fan since bren esports days but the match against rrq this year was the endgame for me. im tired of hyping my friends and myself up everytime they have a match.

#83
Skuh271
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I feel u man

#80
unknown_trash
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I said this a couple of months ago and got downfragged for it because TS were doing somewhat well.

EDIT OMFG I HATE NECRO THREADS FFS

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