VCT 2022 fair distribution

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PrTsty

24 teams for masters 1 (12 team play-in, 4 make it out)
16 teams for masters 2 similair to MSI in League
20 teams for masters 3 (8 team play-in, 4 make it out)
24 teams for Champs
this would make every masters a little bit different and make it interesting.
also riot wouldnt have to make a thought an thight schedule and 24 teams in the summer wouldnt pay out for riot anyways

masters 1
4 EMEA
4 NA
4 South Amerika
3 Korea
2 SEA
2 China
2 Japan
2 South Asia (india, pakistan and co.)
1 OCE

Masters 2
2 EMEA
2 NA
2 South Amerika
2 Korea
2 SEA
2 China
1 Japan
1 South Asia
1 OCE
+1 for the region that won Masters 1 (not the team, just the region)

Masters 3
3 EMEA
3 NA
3 South Amerika
3 Korea
2 China
2 SEA
2 Japan
1 South Asia
1 OCE

Champions
Masters 3 Winner
3 EMEA
3 NA
3 South Amerika
2 Korea
2 SEA
2 China
2 Japan
1 South Asia
1 OCE
1 NA LCQ
1 EMEA LCQ
1 ASIA LCQ
1 South Amerika LCQ

anything you would change?

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2 Japan LMAO

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u prefer killing the region?

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I prefer to watch nice games. I think 1 slot is ok

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thats what play-ins is for, the lower regions fight it out there and get to play other lower regions. meaning less stomps + higher competition for the main event (top 16) If you dont give reigons enough spots they will eventually lose interest in the game. and also thats what global LAN is here for. to see everyone play everyone not only the top 4 regions

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Didn't read the play-ins, could be really interesting. But I would leave Brazil and Latam in separate regions

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Latam and brazil are very close in skill tho and have similair fanbases, it wouldnt kill either region and upgrade it in international competition imo. otherwise you would have to give both 4 but I think BR deserves more than 2 if they actually get good teams and get competitive

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The problem is in online competitions, south american players have around 80 ping in br servers. Also, you are forgeting about North Latam teams (Mexico, Colombia, etc).

The solution might be qualifiers and a big LAN event, but Mexico and Brazil will fight to get this event on their lands.

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Yeah but latam was on LAN anyways. Sure brazil and mexiko mighr be fighting ove were its held but riot can deffo handle that

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japan also has crazy viewership so you gotta keep that into account

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you do realise that these teams could improve and could kick your regions ass whatever it might be in the future many regions need to supported in the games infancy cos otherwise the scene just dies.

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''u prefer killing the region'' also you: na 4 and EMEA 4.... EMEA has 3 regions do u want cis and turkey to die also?

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PrTsty

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CIS and TR are on level tho? they can both qualify, sure you can split turkey away and give them 1 slot together with MENA but atm EMEA is working, most fans actrually like that concept and players dont seem to mind

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na fan who like watchin na vs na only ok

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PrTsty

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im not an NA fan lol. I wanna see all regions get enough slots, more than 4 is unecessary dude. U dont need 15 teams to represent EMEA, the 4 best teams are enough to do the job

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japan has huge viewership

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True manito, but until now they have not win a single match in international competitions

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but rito would lose a large fanbase and some money along with that

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Daksor

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True, maybe a play-in would be the solution

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Isn't that too many?

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?

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Too many what dude

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Masters are just qualifiers for the Champions
16 teams for the Masters and 24 teams for the Champions are good enough

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yeah but at the same time its not enough, if u have 16 teams your 24 champions teams will be completly f'ed up, some random team would have a lucky run and place over other teams that consistently made like 3rd place in their region but didnt make it to a LAN

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ShadowisBAD

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ppl gonna say

eMeA dEsErVe mOrE sPoTs bEcAuSe tHeY aRe 3 rEgIoNs

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unknown_trash

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then say SEA deserve more spots because they are a lot of regions lmao

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does master 1 not gonna be a regional competition like this year?

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Soul_Stalker

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bruh, master 1 is regional competition, not international LMAO

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no its not, it was only because of covid

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The Challenger Final tournament will feature the best eight teams, and will award prizing and qualification slots into the next Masters event. While COVID-19 continues to impact international travel, Masters will be limited to regional events, similar to First Strike. During the stages where Masters tournaments remain regional, they will use the eight team format of Challenger Finals. We’re eager to pivot Masters events into international LANS as soon as possible and will continue to monitor the situation closely for a safe time to do so.

https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/announcing-the-2021-valorant-champions-tour/

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you are so 0head, and the worst thing was you were so confident lmao

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Brayl28

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thats a lot of teams w

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24 teams at each of the 3 Masters

NA - 3 slots
OCE - 1 slot
NA 4rd-5th teams, OCE 2nd-3rd teams play a quick online event in one location, in which 1 more slot is determined
Total NA + OCE = 5

EU - 2 slots
TR - 1 slot
CIS - 1 slot
MENA - 0 slots
EU 3rd-4th teams, TR 2nd-3rd teams, CIS 2nd-3rd teams, MENA 1st-2nd teams play a quick online event in one location, in which 2 more slots are determined
Total EU + TR + CIS + MENA = 6

BR - 2 slots
LATAM - 1 slot
BR 3rd-4th teams, LATAM 2nd-3rd teams play a quick online event in one location, in which 1 more slot is determined
Total BR + LATAM = 4

KR - 2 slots
SEA - 2 slots
JP - 1 slot
SA - 1 slot
CN - 1 slot
KR 3rd-4th teams, SEA 3rd-4th teams, JP 2nd-3rd teams, SA 2nd team, CN 2nd team play a quick online event in one location, in which 2 more slots are determined
Total KR + SEA + JP + SA + CN = 9

5 + 6 + 4 + 9 = 24

16 teams at Champions, only the best of the best deserve to be here

3 slots - NA + OCE circuit, 1 slot - NA + OCE last chance (next 8 teams by points)
3 slots - EMEA circuit, 1 slot - EMEA last chance (next 8 teams by points)
4 slots - APAC circuit, 1 slot - APAC last chance (next 8 teams by points)
2 slots - BR + LATAM circuit, 1 slot - BR + LATAM last chance (next 8 teams by points)

4 + 4 + 5 + 3 = 16, no Masters 3 winner bullshit

Something like this would be very cool, it's like you guarantee representation from every region but also reward the strongest ones

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PrTsty

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this is pretty cool but I think riot wouldnt do something similair to this, people wouldnt understand the format and it would be too many games maybe

also I dont see riot doing 24 teams in summer

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PrTsty

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 no Masters 3 winner bullshit

this one makes no sense btw, Imagine you win masters 3 but dont make it to champions directly. like teams wouldnt bother making superteams after masters 2

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Seems ight.

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rushil20

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You always need to have 1 more emea team do you not comprehend emea litterally has eu turkey cis middle east africa while na is only Canada and the states plus like worlds the well performing regions get 1 extra seed na and emea arent even close in terms of the amount of teams in for contention.

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EMEA being more regions is a shit argument, otherwise you would give SEA 4 spots aswell.
but yeah EMEA has the most teams and players but 4 is enough to represent regions and doesnt mess with seeding.
if any region is good enough 4 teams is enough to win the whole thing. u dont need tier 1.5 of a top region when the best of the best will do it

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every state in india (30states) has like more population than 90 percent contries in world india has like 30 regions india 30 spots

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unknown_trash

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less slots for good regions encourages teams who are so close to qualifying to keep trying instead of relaxing knowing that they will get through

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2 For NA LCQ and 2 For EU LCQ because of how dominant most teams are and never seem to succeed, it makes it cooler to have a higher set of competition in champions

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PrTsty

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Yeah that would also be cool

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Also, China - 1 and OCE -2 cause china is really new to VAL

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Howard

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China could have 3 within next year after the game blows up in popularity

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PrTsty

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OCE had 5k peak viewers. Riot wont invest into them too much

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Give only 1 to china and 2 to South Asia
Yes I am bias towards my region but how can you give 2 slots to some region where the game isn't even released yet whereas in South Asia game has good popularity but decent competition

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2 China, 1 Japan for masters 2?

1 more slot for the region that hasn't even had international competition vs the region that has one of the biggest viewership?

Fair, huh?

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mclife20

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idiot same slot for NA and and emea is not fair riot is not gonna do that unless they separate europe to cis and turkey

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2 Slots for SA damn, I'm not complaining but 1 slot will do fine :)