Is NA esports doomed?

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ortuh

It feels like most of the established esports NA has fallen off in, or is beginning to decline in? Even though as a region they are probably the richest and most popular, the longer the esport goes on the further they fall off. Its a shame because especially recently, just watching EU vs EU in cs and rl has just been boring, theres no drama due to NA not being a competitor. Is it a curse?

Dota - finished
CS - pretty much finished
RL - 1 american player in top 8
LOL - Finished
OW - Finished
Apex - probs NA's best game

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yes

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BUT WE STILL WIN THE MOST CALL OF DUTY CHAMPIONSHIP
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH🦅🦅🦅

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guy_69

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just like na sport

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jeffcubed

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same sport that sold out in 15 minutes for a game in germany?

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guy_69

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whats that same sport best team

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I_HATE_MCE

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No because NA clears valorant so ur wrong!

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vooooooooooooooooooooooop

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You mean korea is doomed

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ortuh

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korea is like the opposite of doomed

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vooooooooooooooooooooooop

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Korea is only good at moba which is just league

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s0ber

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which is like the biggest esport in the world

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vooooooooooooooooooooooop

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Doesn't matter , still proves my point that they are only good at 1 game and they are doomed. And maybe OW but it's a dead game

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iframedeez

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surely if we inflated the salaries and the buyout nothing will happen right?????

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DELUSIONAL_SCOURGE_FAN

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Yes but who tf in NA plays Dota, LOL, OW

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capital_d_colon

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its because they recycle the same old talent/friends over and over again.
happened in LoL and is happening in rocket league.

if they repeat these mistakes in valorant they are doomed to fail

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DELUSIONAL_SCOURGE_FAN

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true our best upcoming players dont get the spotlight its honestly a miracle someone like demon1 got into tier 1

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iframedeez

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it doesn't matter when all the money gone tho just like in CS, they had good prospect in their T2/T3 but the money is already long gone it's impossible catch up.

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ortuh

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g2shahzams NA nepotism thread might just be a stroke of genius then lmao

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True look at chronic, one of the best things to happen to na

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ortuh

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yea and the sad thing is no NA team would pick him up

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capital_d_colon

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Chronic was only given this chance because two european players came over.
Though I think the roster shuffle after worlds will be good for NA, it seems like everyone is finally realising the damage of failing to promote bubble/new players has done.

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a good point, I know there's nepotism in other regions but clout matters a whole lot more in NA than other regions.

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CS2 might revive NA again since Riot isnt doing anything to the tier2 scene

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Kuuga

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NA has a lot of good talent, but (like what capital_d_colon mentioned in #8) orgs are recycling their own players rather than relying on the new ones. Thus, making the newcomers useless and washed. If the NA orgs actually listen, then there will be success

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jackb2016

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NA is finished

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Meteor_stan

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the only esports in which Na is good at is the one where everyone else stopped playing

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cboomer

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NA has prob the biggest talent pool by far in val but in other games you are correct

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ortuh

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Its the same with other games though which is my point. The longer the esport scene goes on the harder they fall. val is a new esport so the decline hasn't started yet (hopefully)

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cboomer

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no its not, EU and APAC were always ahead and started in the esports scenes first in every single other esport (idk Fortnite maybe NA was ahead idc)

maybe instead of being low iq just be grateful that valorant is one of the few scenes ultra competitive in almost every region

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ortuh

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Rocket league NA was always #1 or #2 until recently, cs, brazil and NA used to be much closer to EU's level, OW NA used to be on top.

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BWF

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NA too focused on making money irl than playing bot games where you make 1 mil max throughout your career

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ortuh

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If that was true fair enough, but I think we both know it isnt

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BWF

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OK!

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ortuh

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so you surround yourself with people who are into the hustler / grindset culture. thats like 0.00000001% of the population

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BWF

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OK!

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ortuh

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once again not reflective of any percentage of the population