SEN falloff needs to be documented

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schlong

shaz went from being one of the best igl/duelist hybrid in the world to playing support on a tier 2 team
dapr was the best cypher player but now is also playing in tier 2 na
zombs is no longer a pro and has very little social media presence anymore
sick got arrested and went crazy
tenz is injured and currently benched as his team spirals to the bottom of the americas league

like who could have predicted this back in 2021

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3cmtotal

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sick is so weird rn, it's actually sad to see

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Pengu12

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I would love to see g2 with hazed and shaz as duelist but Oxy is prolly better

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kskm

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true and lets not even talk about sinatraa

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xD1LL4N

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Dapr was never the best cypher, did you just forget nAts existed ?

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Itsover

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based. The only reason why dapr was considered the best cypher is because derke carried fnc to Reykjavik vs Gambit in semis. nAts was better even during Reykjavik Masters 2 days and he proved it later in Berlin, dapr literally admitted stealing nAts setups.

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moatz

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He was considered the best cypher but only for 2-3 months
After the 2nd tourney, Nats became the best

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Itsover

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he was considered the best cypher only by NA majority r*dditors who didn't watch CIS/EMEA, nats had far better stats than dapr in masters qualifier as well.

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moatz

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They nvr dropped a map the entire tourney and his stats were better than even Derke at Iceland.
There's no way only ppl from NA considered him the best sentinel itw then.
I agree Nats became better after but before that, he was 100% at the top.

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Itsover

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vlr rating is a meme sometimes, he had 110 adr 180 acs 1 kd, no way he was more impactful than derke. Also,
https://www.vlr.gg/19073/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/16835/fnatic-vs-gambit-esports-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-sf
dapr was nothing special even back then, the thing that made him famous was his bming in-game(yep it was funny af), not his gameplay. Also Gambit had 0 clout before winning Berlin, the only ones who watched their matches were random 1k CIS viewers on a Russian stream. Nats averaged around 200 on twitch back then, so obv nobody was hyping him up among casuals, all pros were saying he's absolutely best in the game tho.

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moatz

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Also Gambit had 0 clout before winning Berlin

That's what I'm saying. Not many ppl new Nats so obv Dapr was considered the best itw. Maybe some ppl in eu knew him but across all other regions, everybody knew Dapr. Also, he had great performances regionally too.
https://www.vlr.gg/17391/sentinels-vs-version1-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-finals-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/12557/sentinels-vs-faze-clan-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-masters-gf/?game=all&tab=overview

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xD1LL4N

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Not many ppl new Nats so obv Dapr was considered the best itw

Not clouted enough to be best itw ???

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moatz

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Not many ppl new Nats so obv Dapr was considered the best itw

I want u to specifically look at the word I bolded

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xD1LL4N

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Its all the same font ?

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moatz

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vro look at it 3 times and then come back

i bolded "considered" though if it genuinely doesn't show up on ur pc

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inlucid

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would be a good The eScore Esports video since they love NA

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Darkhunter

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Bro their main problem was never the players it's the management that's the issue.The only common thing in this entire downfall is the management who never knows how to run a team.
I am not saying I know but when you are in sports you should take criticism as well

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NoOne_ButMe

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They brought in kanpeki and shroud..
They didn't cared if they win or nah

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Darkhunter

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Exactly they don't care and never even hired people who.cared or knows what to do.

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JAPANCAFE

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then for a coach they signed a player from faze 💀

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Darkhunter

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This was most hilarious signing lmaoo

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I hope sick really stays off twitter and takes a break for his mental health sake. It’s sad seeing him like this and plus if he wants to compete again this hurts his public image limiting his chances to play on a team again.