Who's better?

We know they are the different League of the different League.

The fucking S+ tier that only exist in their two... and prime TenZ.

So, who is better?

papas

Here we go again

Prime yay?

me

Down vote me all u want but derke>aspas. We saw that in Copenhagen,Istanbul and Sao Paulo
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo
Every tournament they both played together, derke was ahead of aspas by a decent amount. Aspas may have won champions but derke was and is still the better player

Aspas isn’t even the best loud player imo
Derke clears

aspas ez

LETSGO another aspas v derke thread

Obv the goat is better

Good with raze?

Aspas Is Way Better Than Derke!

!stats

Below is a very limited, by its nature, table... Because we have yet to reach a significant number of rounds played throughout the event, none of their data can be deemed DESCRIPTIVE at this time - I believe it's self explanatory. We can only refer to it as a quick glance. - and a pretty naive one.

Name          R     ACS  ADR  K:D  KAST KPR   APR   FKPR  FDPR  HS%
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Aspas         1.19  257  174  1.2  76%  0.9   0.31  0.21  0.12  24%
Derke         1.11  229  154  1.27 65%  0.89  0.08  0.19  0.24  27%
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Event's AVG   1     200  130  1    70%  0.69  0.29  0.01  0.1   26%

So, despite the fact that Aspas has played twice as many rounds as Derke, both are outperforming the event's average (also quite unreliable stats atm, but...) Aspas has been performing marginally better than Derke - not considered a conclusive observation ofc... simply a brief assessment within the quick glance.

What else can we attempt at this point? We may monitor a couple of things, including their FKPR to see how it compares to their overall averages, per each event, or both - be it stacked with other ratios or not. FKPR is always worth looking at as both players in question are playing duellist agents as their mains. In the very least, for example, we might compare how they started the event on average to their past events stats and try to establish their +/- (which would also require assessing the strength of their past and current opponents first).

Quite a lot and a lot of work, I'd say... which would also require a good familiarity with their style of play, including watching their VODS ofc etc <-- this could be skipped as we all watch live casts ... cough ... cough... aren't we?

We could more or less say: if one wants to determine who is a better player, from where both stand today, given their previous data, the TROPHY will be a fair deciding factor (at least to me), as without wasting our time on counting hair, it's unreasonable to tell them MUCH apart - IMHO. And then even a winning trophy would not put them much apart IMHO... Both are great players!

P.S. ALSO, things can be viewed differently depending on our point of view (methods)

Cryo clears them

Can aspas even be good enough to make it to a match with fnatic ever again???

Botssi is better 🤡