SEN fans come (ShahZam vs Dephh IGL)

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Yessirskiiii

If you had the chance to replace Dephh with Shahz, given the current coaching staff and structure SEN have, with 4 world class players. Would you swap Dephh for ShahZam?

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zidmz

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im swapping dephh for a backseating bronze who's been "hardstuck" for a year

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dexter000111

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The guy who almost 2-0'd Leviatan and Loud
Vs
The guy who got rekt by OREsports

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Yessirskiiii

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Counterpoint: the guy who can shoot back and is decent mechanically vs statistically the worst player in Ameicas. Idk tho this ones for SEN fans not me

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dexter000111

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Dephh has no need to frag out. He has 2 world champion aimers along with 2 insane prodigies

Their problems are much more complex than "IGL can't shoot"

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Yessirskiiii

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He doesn't need to frag out but with his level of calling you can't go -25 with poor utility

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dexter000111

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I do not disagree
My point is shazam's IGLing is no better. They'd have 1 extra fragger but would get strat diffed into the ground imo

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Pumsyslayer

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True but dephh ain't no Fns who can make up for his aim with his insane reads and strats. Dephh lacks in both the departments

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thatpower

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bro even then, fns can't always make up his aim for his insane reads LOL just makes dephh look worse

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marblesoda

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FNS adopted asuna aim lately, once he mastered it he will be the goat igl

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manwhat

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mf completely ignored the point and counterpointed with stats lmao yall are so braindead bro i swear.. yall were just clowning shaz before franchising make up yall minds fr

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this

#11

Yessirskiiii

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Also one last counterpoint: that was very very much down to individuals popping off. I mean ffs SEN have 4 world class players. They should be going toe to toe with Leviatan

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no that’s just a Kaplan diff bringing sacy back to initiator

dephh didn’t even tell his team to break KJ util to create pressure and kept running into a stacked site ..

shahz’s midrounding and shooting >>> dephh

but i’m a lowly internet scrub what do i know

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moatz

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I would swap them in an instant

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SilentCypher

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I mean I don't see the reason not to.
Dephh is no doubt a good pro but Shahz is a clear upgrade from firepower to shot calling.
I personally don't like Shahz that much either but I do think he might be a better fit.
Again, the 2021 roster worked because of their team chemistry so this being a new core might go the other way too.
But given he was doing all that without a coach is commendable

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YeaUrMum

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Dephh is fine without his aim he's a good igl and he does his job rn don't need all brawn no brains

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MaTrix96

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Dephh is actually good. It's just that his mistakes/ errors stand out because of the quality of his teammates right now.

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Chow1E

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d0ph strat/braingod no aim 5000 ms reaction time
shratzam aimgod no brain bad mental
both are terrible but 1 of them has title

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Simon_Digger

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I definitely would, I still think their calling is AT LEAST on par if not Shaz's better.
One thing that isn't even a competition is the mechanical ability
Also, every coach says that you can tell about an IGL's ability by what their teammates say about them, so:
https://youtu.be/0Sy1KTzSGgE
https://youtu.be/HjA5spKERGo

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Pengu12

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No, only replace dephh with an igl that can lead the team to success, shaz is good but his IGLing is very inconsistent

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Yessirskiiii

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Thx Pengu my brother good take

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Pengu12

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Thank u yessir, stay based

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sheahhhh

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cause he didnt have a fucing coach and was forced to play with bot 5ths every time while sick was being delusional

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Pengu12

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I ain’t talking about him on Sen, g2 look like gods sometimes and lose to OR others + I think he has good enough players around him not to lose to teams like OR and OXG

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sheahhhh

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bruh g2 legit said they didnt have prac this week and shahz played very well in that match, dapr dropped the ball

#27

Pengu12

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Shaz is a very good player my friend but the IGLing vs OR wasn’t the best, they looked lost kinda like a newly formed team

#28

sheahhhh

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sen is carried by individuals, the strats are garbage ngl

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Pengu12

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Sure man, individuals almost beat loud but couldn’t beat Tsm

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tetris

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shahzams midrounding is much better than dephhs considering sen lack of coaching when he was on the roster. Dephhs map pool seems weak af, on some maps he calls like a god but on most he makes some questionable decisions. Could be cause its a new team so he might improve with time

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Danny

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Not a Sen fan but I’d pick Dephh 100% of the time

#23

pussyslayer

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Dephh's igling doesn't seem to cover up his bad fragging? So yea

#29

CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Imagine you can have him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ2ClIAGwk4&ab_channel=ShortTwitchHighlights

over depphh

I aint even thinking, goatzam clears

#33

mocaxoxo

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god damn...

crispy aim and util usage ..

i miss him so much ngl

#34

CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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agree, out of the world aim, true igl, knows how to use utility and actually knows how to enable good players (tenzedzombie)

bonus he is handsome

#37

rishu004

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fuck is that different

#35

ufc

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yes I will take back Shahzam!

#38

Cannot

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Yessirskii the amount of dephh hate you spew on the regular is absurd. You just say the same things over and over all the time. Any one who watches the games can tell that yes dephh does have bad mechanics. But his calls aren't some dogshit piss poor level of things like you continue to make them out to be.
SEN is still growing as a team at this point so just shut up. Stop making pointless comparisons that only generate more hate for a player that is already facing an absurd amount of hate and pressure from people.

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Yessirskiiii

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You might be right my brother... I'm only curious about what SEN fans think this isn't to generate hate. I also never said his calls are piss poor, i only said his calls arent that good that they mask his mechanical deficiencies. I do think he's definitely a solid player but at the same time i just think there's better talent in tier 2.

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JvRR

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If we're being realistic people will ping-pong between hating or loving dephh on a round to round basis so