EMEA T2 | VLR.gg

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T2 is in a pretty bad spot for most vrl.
lack of sponsors lack of orgs etc..

Polaris: https://twitter.com/Tanizhq/status/1636017926330277888

East has CWE (an org) not paying players again....

Now more information about france: https://cocovlr.medium.com/valorant-in-vcl-france-defections-and-disappointments-fef2b76a9e5c
Teams are leaving the league while still owing players money. (Sector One, Heet and beGenius).
The organiser for france has had late payments, the casters are threatening to strike

Imo t2 emea needs a major overhaul, this current system does not work.

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riot, again, proves to not give a shit about t2

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t2 americas is fine, maybe the issue is with the region, no?

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the issue is with the emea format which is the fault of riot, too many leagues combined with restrictive import rules means no one is watching

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idk, people seemed excited for all the individual VRLs when they were announced

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there were def people hyped for it, but it also got criticism right away
(though I dont think anyone saw it getting THIS bad SO fast)

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I was definitely hyped for VRL's but I tought theyd be handled better than that.

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Maybe it's on how they manage the region. They put all of NA in one league instead of NA east west conference. EU is barely bigger than the USA (I think) yet the place is divided into so many pieces.

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timing lol: https://www.vlr.gg/187045/editorial-the-emea-vcls-are-flawed-and-nobody-can-agree-on-a-solution-pt-1

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solution: disband VRLs and just make 1 EMEA T2 league zzzzzzz

Then Knights can branch into EU market and run the T3 tournaments there (where most of the VRL players belong anyway)

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so knights can come to emea and create another horrendous format lol.
imagine topping your group winning msi and still not having the most points

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but people are watching Knights events and not VRLs so.............

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eh maybe 4 leagues

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Hopefully Riot is smart enough to realize that if their VCL leagues get killed the new players coming up to get a healthy eco system will decrease and the game will die. They have to step in, especially in these early years

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yeah otherwise they may end up like how csgo only got teams in eu where all they got is Americas and East Asia

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and they have to be quick otherwise that in game tourney system will make no sense

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Riot has to chose:
Either financially support the leagues if you want them to remain split
Or allow leagues that are struggling financially to merge and allow for better sponsors (due to higher viewership), more orgs, more competition and less organization overhead

when looking at it competitively the system is completely illogical too since the only way into t1 has restrictive rules that don't apply to t1 teams (meaning t2 teams that eventually make it into t1 are at an extra disadvantage)

I dont exactly want another situation where, for example, Italy and Portugal have almost 0 representation in their merged league, but its also clearly not working atm, so you gotta pick a poison

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The EMEA scene is dying